Are there any around that offer lay tips and have a proven positive track record? Or do they not exist. I guess probably not?

Yes there are a few. The moderators will hit this hard though as soon as we start promoting services.

Instead search google for "lay tipping service australia" and then contact those that you find an ask for the last 3,6 or 12 months history. They will all gladly give you their results if they are not already available online.

Thanks mate, greatly appreciated.

I've just thought.. would it not be more profitable for anyone providing a lay tipping service to just keep tips to themselves and lay more money, if infact they are confident with their system of tips?

Some subscribe to ratings and other services to get their tips. Depending on the where they are getting them from and the time that they put in to the selection process, they at one stage have said "I need to share the cost" and once down this path, they have continue. They tend to treat the deal as two separate processes (1) recoup the cost and (2) bet or lay to their comfort level. Some are not comfortable betting more than 3 figures. A couple that I know have been restricted in the amount they can bet, that the only viable way to win is to sell the tips. One I know only charged for the winning tips. Thus there are many reasons for providing the service

Another reason is they may be successful but selling their tips evens out the ups and downs as its guaranteed income.

Also if I were to sell my tips (which I couldn't due to the way its all setup) then I would be adding the subscription money to my money so I can increase my stake and therefore my profit.

So by selling my tips I would reduce my risk when losses come in and/or increased my profits when a winning streak comes along.

Good points made.

I am prepared to pay to get tips from a proven tipping service. Does anyone here use any Aus services with continued success? I am not after names of services.

I do not subscribe to any but there are 2 that I monitor that based on their results I would feel they would be ok to follow.

How am I able to find out who they are without indirectly promoting on the forum?

If they were only to lay for Saturday racing then one cant really go past the Free Ratings posted here on Fridays.
Depending on what price range you which to operate on you should do very well.

Cheers
darky