Hi everyone,

I'm looking for the place % of the paper favourite, for city and country meetings.

I've done a search but no luck, can someone please point me in the right direction?

Thanks Mike

Mike367.

Each horse is shown with it's Place percentage on the Punters Paradise website. This info is listed in their Form Guide section.

Good luck, Michael.

Thanks Michaelg,

though that's not quite what I meant, sorry I should have made myself clearer.

If the fave wins 30% of the time, how often does it place?
60,70,80%????

Mike367.

I don't have an accurate answer and don't know where I can find it, but I think I remember to have read it somewhere that the raw figure (no filters) is around 60%.

Thanks, I'll keep looking.

Quoted from elsewhere
We collected 9 years of stats on this.
The favourites running a place is approx 70 percent
85 percent place strike rate at $2 and under.

Interestingly, the stat is the same for greyhounds and trots.

Is there a similar figure for the win, Beton?

LG

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I have an old book of systems from 1970 and it also gives the figure of 70% of outright favs run a place.

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Mike367's original question was 'Paper favourite' Not sure if Beton or Speedy's posts addressed that specifically? There's favourites and there's favourites??
Had a look at Sunshine Coast races from yesterday and compared 1.Outright oncourse bookies Open favourite, 2. Final Tote Favourite & 3. Newspaper pre Post favourite.

...........Oncourse Open Fav.....Tote Fav...........Pre Post Fav
1/.................3rd.....................Unpl..... ............Won
2/.................Won...................2nd........ ...........Won
3/.................Unpl...................Unpl...... ............Unpl
4/.................3rd....................3rd....... .............3rd
5/.................Unpl...................Unpl...... ............scr
6/.................N/A....................Won..................2nd
7/.................2nd....................2nd....... ............2nd
8/.................Unpl...................Unpl..................scr
....................57%...................50%..... ............83%

Thank-you, Beton, SpeedyBen and Rinconpaul.

All food for thought especially Rinconpauls post. It would be very interesting to see the results for a longer period.
If anyone has the data........?

Cheers,

Mike.