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Old 2nd May 2017, 10:51 AM
Chrome Prince Chrome Prince is offline
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RaceCensus has been updated to 30/04/2017.
Updates were posted out to clients today.
RaceCensus now has over 2.90 million records and more than 280,000 races with five start form.
Compatible with all versions of Windows.

Don't forget you can earn a $100 cash rebate on your purchase.
Email Guy http://www.propun.com.au/contact.html and ask how to qualify.
(Before or after purchase).
Also applies retrospectively to past purchasers.

If clients or prospective purchasers have any questions, this is the part of the forum made available to do so.

If you are a client and your subscription has expired, you can either repurchase RaceCensus and get 12 months of free updates again here:
http://www.propun.com.au/racecensus_cc.html

Or order a full update for $60.00 at any time here:
http://www.ozmium.com.au/order/extr...mer_details.php
*Please note, you must have purchased RaceCensus in the past to order an update.
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Old 13th May 2017, 08:10 AM
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Got some serious up the curve work to do here and obviously early days test driving all the query fields and their respective quirks but three words come to mind thus far Chrome..

ITS A BEAST

Cheers LG
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Old 13th May 2017, 09:52 AM
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Thanks for the kind words LG,
There's constant developing taking place to make it a better product
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http://www.propun.com.au/horse_raci...ng_systems.html
*RaceCensus now updated to 31/10/2024
Video overview of RaceCensus here:
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Old 26th May 2017, 11:55 AM
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Hi Chrome.

Had a lot of fun dabbling with your mean machine thus far. Can you tell me if you have anything in the pipeline on these angles / aspects. Might be a bit of a long shot but I had to ask?!

- pre post ranking or odds
- operand that excludes a selection
- any new systems profitable over the longer term
- including a ratings field eg Tatts

Cheers LG

Ps can you also give me a quick heads up on what is a good Archie score.. What is ******** poor etc
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Old 26th May 2017, 01:16 PM
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Hi LG,
There's is a way to exclude selections.
Say you already have your search parameters in "find" mode.
You don't want to include Heavy tracks.
Go to the top menu and go to requests => Add new request.
A new blank search page will show up but it will show 2 find requests in the top left hand corner.
Enter Heavy in the going field and right next to matching records up the top again click the button "omit".
Give it a try and if you get stuck, email me.

Prepost ranking or odds are only available from my sources for the last couple of years, and due to the huge file size and various studies I've done, there isn't a great deal of benefit UNLESS you can predict firmers in the market.

I am working on new systems, but there are always constant modifications that you may not pick up, that I'm working on with the database, so it may be a little longer coming. The current systems are only a starting point and a way to learn the way to use it in text or numeric fields.

There are no plans at this stage to add a ratings field, because it is retrospective. I did do a study on Tatts ratings and I couldn't come up with any value. Strike rate improved, but value was sucked out of it. 100 rating in a maiden is not the same as 100 rating in a Group 1 for example.
I may look into the handicappers rating, but again I couldn't find any value and I spent a great deal of time on it.

The system viability score in the database is based on the profit divided by the largest win or place dividend, any number higher than 10% of the total selections is very good, but what it does do is highlight when the profit only comes from one or two outsiders, which isn't likely to occur again, or if it does, you'll have to endure a very long run of outs.

I'm always grateful for suggestions and feedback, I've spent almost every day this month 4 to 5 hours, making behind the scenes adjustments to the database.

Just because I rule out some suggestions, doesn't mean they won't happen, I'm just working on other areas which are very time consuming.
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http://www.propun.com.au/horse_raci...ng_systems.html
*RaceCensus now updated to 31/10/2024
Video overview of RaceCensus here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W821YP_b0Pg
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Old 26th May 2017, 02:30 PM
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Brilliant response CP - I will take on board your points and try out your tips

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Old 26th May 2017, 02:44 PM
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PS just tried out the second search option stating with a +POT system I created and plugged in - omit heavy - and it improved the bottom line somewhat. When I plugged in - omit soft - the result was dramatically worse i.e. largish LOT

Just goes to show ... 'bread and butter assumptions' aka what seems common sense or knowledge can be way off the mark once the historical data is crunched. Probably my biggest learning lessons to date with RC I'm thinking..

1. can always look to improve a winning system
2. never assume that common sense is profitable

BRAVO my friend. Looking forward to picking up a couple more gems!

Cheers LG
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Old 26th May 2017, 06:41 PM
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Yes LG,
Largely because trainers scratch horses that can't handle Heavy (not all).
But Dead or (Soft now) indicates track could have got worse or is getting better, so it could be all cut up, and trainers will give their horse a go to see if the horse can handle some give but not Heavy.
All my research indicates Dead or Soft give the worst strike rate overall, long term when looking at systems and not individual horses.
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Now with over 409,000 Metropolitan, Provincial and Country races!
http://www.propun.com.au/horse_raci...ng_systems.html
*RaceCensus now updated to 31/10/2024
Video overview of RaceCensus here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W821YP_b0Pg
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