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Old 29th October 2012, 01:59 PM
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Because the Place method is doing so well I decided to apply the D.S. market and Unitab to another method.

It has done surprisingly well over the past three days but then I thought the D.S. ratings could have changed after the race.

So I've identified today's selections to see if the results are near as impressive. I'm backing them each-way, even though there have been some outstanding quinellas.

The method/selection process is:

1) Single prices in D.S. ratings,
2) 96-plus points in Unitab ratings.

Today's selections are:

Swan Hill
1/2
2/1, 2
4/1, 7
5/2, 7
6/6, 8
7,2, 3, 4, 5
8/6

Wellington
2/4, 11
3/3
4/2, 5, 6
5/5, 11
6/4
7/12

Cessnock
1/3, 4
2/1, 2, 3
6/14
7/5, 6, 10

The first two races at Swan Hill have already been run. There's been three selections for one winner of $3.30 and all three have placed for a return of $4.00. The quinella in race 2 ($1.00 outlay) was snared for a return of $7.

I've just returned from a specialist who sent me for a brain scan...no, not to see if I've got a brain, but because I've got very mild vertigo. It's not serious but after two and a half years I've decided to do something about it. I go back to see him next week.
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Old 29th October 2012, 02:24 PM
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Hi michaelg,

I'm not sure if your into staking ideas/plans as well. I wonder if this method would benefit from adjusting the staking based on if its got a higher rating or a lower DS price?

i.e. a low DS price combined with 100 rater might be a full unit bet, however a high DS price near $10 and a 96 rater might only be a half unit bet. Then anything in between can be adjusted with a simple equation, just something to consider.

Also I found in my backtesting so far that 100 raters win quite frequently, then there is a reasonably drop to 99 raters, then it increases a bit again for 98, 97 and 96 then starts to taper off again. That may be something to explore as well, can post the data for you if your interested.
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Old 29th October 2012, 02:39 PM
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I've just returned from a specialist who sent me for a brain scan...no, not to see if I've got a brain, but because I've got very mild vertigo. It's not serious but after two and a half years I've decided to do something about it. I go back to see him next week.
Steady on, Michael.
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Old 29th October 2012, 03:30 PM
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You always stimulate my mind Michaelg.
Thank you.
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Old 29th October 2012, 03:46 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion, evajb001.

However at the moment I'll stick with just betting them level stakes, but if it continues to perform I'll certainly look at your suggestion.

At the moment there have been 8 races already run, for 15 selections producing 5 winners totaling $19.30 for the Win and $14.90 for the Place.
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Old 29th October 2012, 04:14 PM
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Also I found in my backtesting so far that 100 raters win quite frequently, then there is a reasonably drop to 99 raters, then it increases a bit again for 98, 97 and 96 then starts to taper off again. That may be something to explore as well, can post the data for you if your interested.


Hi evajb001, pls post if you can - will be interesting to see how it pans out.

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Old 29th October 2012, 06:32 PM
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Good luck with the vertigo michaelg. I didn't really like it as a movie but I hope they sort it out for you.
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Old 29th October 2012, 07:59 PM
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Thanks, Ocho. It's very mild and I only get it when I stand up.

Pun intended, Speedyben? Quite humourous.

Today was not the best of days for the method. From 33 selections the Win return on NSW TAB was $28.90 and $27.10 for the Place.

The quinella outlay was $22 and the return was $50.

However if I had kept the maximum runners at 11 as I do with the Place system then the results would've been:

Outlay of $27
Win return of $28.90
Place return of $22.10
Quinella outlay of $21
Return of $50

From tomorrow I'll list the selections for fields of a max of 11 runners.
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Old 29th October 2012, 09:11 PM
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Under tab no 7
6 bets
1 win 2.40
1 place 1.30
Simple idea and simple to track may help with milti selections
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Old 30th October 2012, 12:27 AM
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Here you go gents for interest of some stats, sorry to get in the road michael, if you wish can get a mod to delete the post and i can put in another thread.

The following is a chart of the Unitab Ratings for all winners in races that i've completed my ratings on since 1 April 2012. In general these are races with greater then Class 3 rating:



The following charts are firstly the stats for days since last start for all winners across the same time frame. It would seem 14 is the sweet spot as well as 6 days either side of this. The second chart is the days since second last start, and as the majority are 49+ it essentially shows that horses 2nd up seem to do the best.



Finally the following 2 charts are as follows, the first chart is the lengths the winner of the race was behind the winner of its previous race (if that makes sense). The second chart is the stats based on a horses winning % in the conditions, track and distance. -1% means it hasn't ran in that element before. Essentially this shows that horses that have ran multiple times and won in the conditions have greater chance of winning again while its stats at the distance or track are negligible with quite a few winners never even running at the track/distance before.



Again sorry for clogging up thread, just figured these may be of interest for some. Obviously not a very large sample size (about 2066 races) but its a starting point.
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