i am currently in the process of a first 4 and trifecta study on greyhounds.
this involves backing the boxes which over a period of time show better results due to the small advantage it gives.we all know 1,2 3 an 7 ,8 give the dog a better chance if all is even.so how can we tap into this effect.
the study is ongoing so i will post more details as i develop this more.
should anyone have any further ideas drop me aline.
keep you all posted

The box draws are very important.

If the greyhound is a notorious slow beginner then inside draws will bury it.

Fast beginners can usually overcome any draw except maybe the squeeze boxes.

Angle Park inside boxes are actually a disadvantage because of the angle of the trap, why they don't fix this up baffles me.
This is commonly known amongst the hound trainers in S.A.

Anyhow good luck with the project.

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Treat your selection and staking methods not with optimism, nor with pessimism, but with realism.

The dogs can be a good conveyance for the Trifectas & First 4, if one can hook them.

One thing I have notice is how often box No. 1&8 very rearly get up together in trifectas.

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Cheers.

well its only a small sample but trifectas are currently 15 hits from 60 races 25% for a profit of$417.20
first 4 is 14 from 60 23%for a profit of 1493.40.
i know its too small a test yet so i will keep you all posted.
the first 4 results are all albion park and the tri,s are hobart and launceston.
stay tuned.

Are those results achieved by boxing all the numbers or standing 1 or 2 out?

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Good luck and good punting.

And remember a profit a day keeps the Girlfriend/Wife away.

they are the same no,s in all meetings with the first 4 a 3,4,6,field combo for a cost of 180 units or 45 for a quarter unit here in s.a.
the trifecta is a 2,7 field for a cost of 72 units or a 36 half unit.
update from monday nights results are albion park 4 from 10 paying total 4368.40/4 =1092.10 for a profit of 642.10
trifecta launceston 5 from 10 total 773.70/2=386.85 profit only 26.85.it big risk for a small return that night .
the trial continues.

If the dog is classy and good enough it can
win in any box it draws same as horse racing
Remeber in the stradbroke how show a heart
carry almost top weight and drew the widest barrier and still comes out winning the big
race, same goes for calaway gal {wide barrier
and who can forget the golden slipper winner
belle du jour miss the start and draw wide.
They all have one thing in common because
they are good champion horses,same as dog if
they are good enough they can overcome all
this obstacles, do you agree?
cheers!

No, sorry don't agree at all.

If you're backing a dog over say 511 metres and it misses the start only slightly from an inside draw, basically it's all over. Seen this scenario over many years. Also the difference is that dogs don't have jockeys so not only does your dog have to run true, but so do all the others. In essence bad luck can destroy any dog's chances and is almost unrecoverable in a short race.

Roo
Enjoying your postings on the dogs. I too believe that there are possibilities there.

I haven't been trying to pick first fours; but will study your suggestions.

Regarding the tris, by choosing two standouts with four (sometimes three) others, I have been able to pick up at least one trifecta in four on average. I usually only take a NSW Flexi for $10, giving a 25% or 41.66% return (with 5 or 6 dogs involved). As the tri returns, if there is a good pool, are often quite big, one win can keep you above water for quite some time :smile:

I would be interested to hear a) why you choose those particular tracks (often the pools are much smaller); and b) why you put in the field for third --- obviously an outsider can boost the results quite a lot; but it is my observation that the outsider just as often comes up first or second!

Thanks again for the postings.

thanks guy,
i chose those tracks after a sample of 500 races and box results. the boxes i have gone with have a better percentage of showing up.
with the first 4 i can only get this on in south australia and queensland due to this states tab.
i have gone with the field for the final placing only because if you get those first placings up i want a winner.
yep greedy i know but i,ve tried various combos and values and keep returning to this set up.
it really depends on bank size and how much risk you are willing to stomach.
well another meeting is on tonight so i will post results soon.remember its still in the trial stage.
if anybody has any further ideas dont be shy we all want to win.