OK so new thread, how many of you have had an e-mail from a certain mob banning you , who offer " lay of the day" selections, both on Saturdays and now Wednesdays"?

Like, at this moment there is only little ol' me and "Mark",....... unbelievable considering that we are both LOSING on their selections, like why would they even put their magnificent minds to such paltry individuals? betting to a max PROFIT of $100? something far more sinister,.... me thinks!

Party, it's the act of using a promotional product to it's maximum. They deem this as a professional approach. Their promotion is simply a marketing tool to attract new business. They don't want people using it as a strategy.
Their last condition sums it up...
For recreational punters only

May has been a shocker for them, just look at their results:

Date 	Track 	Race 	Start Time 	Selection 	Unibet Odds 	Result

Sat 17th 	Doomben 	6 	3.05pm 	Arabian Gold 	$2.10 	1st

Sat 17th 	Scone 	5 	2.40pm 	Atmospherical 	$3.50 	1st

Wed 14th 	Canterbury 	4 	2.53pm 	Bridge Of Sighs 	$9.00 	1st

Wed 14th 	Sandown 	4 	2.00pm 	Fantome Gris 	$4.40 	1st

Sat 10th 	Rosehill 	7 	3.50pm 	Forster 	$3.00 	1st

Sat 10th 	Morphettville 	6 	2.54pm 	Rhythm To Spare 	$3.70 	1st

Sat 10th 	Flemington 	4 	2.22pm 	Backstedt 	$4.00 	1st

Sat 10th 	Doomben 	3 	1.20pm 	Havana 	$2.15 	2nd

Wed 7th 	Sandown 	5 	2:35pm 	The Thief 	$3.50 	2nd

Wed 7th 	Warwick Farm 	3 	2:18pm 	Murphy’s Delight 	$6.50 	3rd

Sat 3rd 	Caulfield 	4 	2:27pm 	Pressing 	$2.80 	1st

Sat 3rd 	Hawkesbury 	2 	1:00pm 	Idyllic Scenery 	$7.50 	Unplaced

You'll find any bookie that offers promotional products that punters use to the maximum, will be locked out as soon as they have a win, if not before.

The bookie doesn't individually sit down and think "I've had enough of this joker" their sophisticated software flags winners, large bettors and people that utilise promotional products above a certain limit. You are marked and chances are that info is shared amongst affiliated bookies, so you might get shut down very quickly elsewhere as well. I have long been of the opinion that these offers are the exploding briefcase for punters. Grab it and they know....you are one of the savvy punters they don't want.

It really is grubby business, and they have no right to call themselves bookmakers. They do not make books. They engineer their client base to only be fluid with casual mug punters.

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It is also morally wrong, the mug punter has no chance to win at all.
Chance is removed, because I have first hand knowledge of losing decent sums at certain bookies and then having a largeish win, (but still losing long term) and I am locked out from ever winning again.

My advice is to milk them as hard as you can and move on when the fat lady sings, but let everyone you know, to follow suit. Cause some damage to their pockets, it's the only way to protest.

I'm aware of the bookie in question. I have a bookie folder in my Outlook box which is full of restricted or banned emails.

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Funny thing is Chrome, I wrote an email of protest to which they quickly replied that most of my bets were using the promotion. My reply was I had had 26 bets since opening my account of which 5 were on the promotion....hardly most. No response. Racing Commission here we come again.

Unfortunatly its a toothless tiger and backs up the bookies 100% of the time.

It's interesting if you read overseas based posts and articles, they've matured a little quicker than us, in that being banned by a soft bookmaker (encompasses all bookmakers except Pinnacle) is a NO BRAINER. Just part of life now, everyone accepts it. They're now down to ways to prolong your membership of a bookie and extend your life there from a day to a few weeks while you scalp them.

Some of the methods involve:
1/ Disguising your IP address
2/ Creating a very common browser fingerprint on a virgin computer to avoid detection
3/ Creating virtual machines
4/ Using other people and their computers to act as a team

It really is quite sophisticated, and when I became aware of it, it leaves you no choice but to use Pinnacle and Betfair for longevity, that's it! No point grumbling anymore, it's over. Either encompass all the latest techniques to avoid detection, which will only give you a limited breathing space, or find other niches.

Seeing as this is becoming more of a problem,
Has anybody tried this link below as it is on our forum???.

http://www.propun.com.au/racing_for...ead.php?t=28353.

Cheers.

rinconpaul, lack of Computer skills is my main problem, I wonder if you would consider explaining those disguises in more detail? if so my e-mail is lumbasakabayo att hott male dott kom

Email sent Party

Chrome, point taken though the Irony is that I was away in NZ for two weeks and missed all the winners, so the only winners I backed were the two last Saturday, that's why I'm flabbergasted.