Don't have a bad word to say about them when it comes to getting a bet on AUS racing. I've read online they want a good reputation so are letting everyone on.. What do others think?

Just looking at your post now PAT.

I am backing N/COORTE R8-3 E/WAY in 7 minutes.

BET365 119.6
VIC TAB 118.5.
UNIBET 122.4.
LUXBET 119.1.
WILLIAM HILL 116.4

"CROWNBET " 124.6

This is the fixed odds market with some of the corporates,
In the upcoming N/COORTE race.

Bet unders maybe the reason.

At least you can get on at the moment,
That's a positive.

Cheers.

I've been betting fixed odds with them for over a year. Their racing odds are great and they create overs on favourites on purpose, which from what I have seen, almost never end up winning. They must have a great team of traders and analysts.

It got up, well done

When you say Overs Pat, overs to what? Betfair Lay, Back, tote, your own rated price.....it just goes on. Overs is a word used often but unless you refer it to something, it leaves you guessing? You being an Arber, I can only assume Overs to Lay price? Big Call.

Sorry, I should clarify I meant they create overs on favs compared to betfair lay. And I cannot remember an instance here where the fav has won.

Cheers, useful info.

Hi Pat.

Um I think with the previous post ,
Was meant to highlight that there are,
Several corporates five in fact who fixed odds wise are much,
More competitive than them as illustrated below.

If you can get an account open with them,
For fixed odds betting (BET365) is without doubt,
The best overall & they do put prices up early.

No idea about their tote product(s).

I opened an account way back put money in which,
Was not accepted, money promptly refunded,
With a nice explanation why.

Now before everyone starts posting there experiences,
Making Pro-Pun libel & this thread closed I read the conditions,
Same everywhere really & accepted the decision.

Just not within 24 hours (L.O.L).

You do not legally have a leg to stand on if you read
The terms re closure of accounts.

So Bet 365 if you can get on for value fixed odds,
If not, be grateful you have Crownbet & good luck,
On the punt, backing- laying- arbing-trading-in-run etc.

Think that covers them all.

Cheers.
Garyf.

I'm a cleanskin with bookies....just never use them, no need. However I've always contemplated that for whatever reason if I wanted to bet with a bookie, Crown would be the last! Only because they're owned by the same mob and my Betfair profile would be available to Crown, you would assume?

The minute you try and arb between the two, I'd reckon a big siren would go off LOL

You obviously disagree with that thought bubble which is heartening?

Yep thanks.

Now see what happens when you get banned.

B/O3 or S/P $3.5.
Top fluctuation $4.00.

Ok lets say you miss it as they take that.

There was plenty of $3.8 being bet when it went into $3.7.

My rule of thumb has always been bet the very first,
Time you horse firms in the betting (fixed odds).

So I would have been on at the $3.8 or at,
The worst $3.7 as they were waiting to be loaded ,
It firmed again to $3.5 which was the S/P.

So now see what great value I got with Betfair S/P,
Less commission of course.

Don't get me wrong I'm not blaming Betfair at,
Least I can get on but this example of what I take now,
As to what I used to have available is a perfect scenario,
Of what happens on a daily basis.

Let's hope it doesn't happen to you Pat although,
It took me a while to convince the Betfair devotees,
There were better options out there with the B/O3 OR S/P (L.O.L)

Cheers.
Garyf.