God help punters,like myself that rely on vision to place bets in the last few seconds before the jump, if we have to only rely on listening to commentators for a clue of when they're about to start.

Vision has taken the edge off their skill level, spoilt them. They're usually waffling on about any old rubbish when they jump! I've heard them countless times say, " they're all loaded" and you can see for yourself that there's still one or two to load.