Thanks becareful. Caution is your middle name. I agree on the average bet size. Lots of systems that are for sale try to sucker people on that. It is *average bet size* that counts, otherwise any comparisdon between level betting and a staking scheme will be misleading. But Placegetter here seems to have the goods - a simple system for turning marginal profits into major profits. I have to admit Placegetter, you system is the most exciting I've encountered in this forum so far. I've been betting for winners but looking back over 60 races, and including the selections I made but didn't actually bet on (to win), I'm getting about 72% place strike. If I can sustain that, or improve it, and maintain some discipline as well, then by Placegetter's system I'm in business! Is that right Placegetter? Anything over 70% strike rate will work? I've been looking at your maths Placegetter. Congratulations and many, many thanks for sharing it with people here in this forum. Awesome.