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darkydog2002 14th April 2014 10:57 AM

A Question?
 
Anyone here using Ladbrokes Australia.

I like the idea of being able to collect winnings at any ATM.

Cheers
darky

UselessBettor 14th April 2014 04:33 PM

Unfortunately Ladbrokes bans every winning punter so the whole idea of an ATM card for them is stupid.

Pat123 14th April 2014 04:47 PM

That's one thing I've never thought to ask - do LADBROKES and all the others in the same unethical boat just ban people from Fixed Odds on horse racing, or, do they also ban/limit people on other products such as Tote, sports odds, if they are winning overall?

Chrome Prince 14th April 2014 05:47 PM

They ban from fixed odds and won't give you Top Fluc, or Best tote, they'll allow you mid tote which is next to useless.

darkydog2002 14th April 2014 06:01 PM

At what Liability to them do they ban you.

At what bet size from the Punter?

How do the larger punters ala Paul D or Michel get set.

Pat123 14th April 2014 06:23 PM

Thanks Chrome.

Out of fixed price, top fluc, best tote and all the rest. What is considered the best value?

Chrome Prince 14th April 2014 07:19 PM

Generically Best Tote, but Top Fluc if you can spot overs early, or you're adept at predicting firmers.

Mark 14th April 2014 07:20 PM

They told me I wasn't banned, they were happy to still offer me their range of tote products. I could hear a toilet flushing in the background.

Rinconpaul 15th April 2014 04:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by darkydog2002
At what Liability to them do they ban you.

At what bet size from the Punter?

How do the larger punters ala Paul D or Michel get set.


If it helps, a reprint of a Paul D01 post from November 8 2013:


My record with corporate bookmakers that are still operating:

IAS - partly restricted;
Sportsbet - barred;
Centerbet - barred;
B365 - barred;
Betstar - barred;
Ladbrokes - barred (account was closed in 7 mins);
Luxbet - barred;
Sportingbet - can only bet metro and limited to win 5k;
Bookmaker.com - barred;
Dynabet - severely restricted may as well not bet.

The good news though is:

Tabcorp - can bet any metro race to win 20k;
Top Sport - limited to win 5k before race day but can bet to win pretty much anything on race day;
Tatts - same as Tabcorp;
Palmerbet - a bit up and down but seem to get a reasonable bet on metro less so on provincial and country.

Other than these I use bowlers and a commission agent on track.

My suggestion:

Target one of the cowboys at a time and hit them as hard and as fast as you can. You are going to get barred anyway if you are a winning punter so at least get some of their money.

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Rinconpaul 15th April 2014 07:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat123
That's one thing I've never thought to ask - do LADBROKES and all the others in the same unethical boat just ban people from Fixed Odds on horse racing, or, do they also ban/limit people on other products such as Tote, sports odds, if they are winning overall?


Pat are you suffering from amnesia?.....It's just that you must have forgot about this post of yours from 13 Nov 2013, wherein you were recanting how you had been banned by Ladbrokes and others including sports betting??:

Yep. They're more than happy to take your money, but if you happen to have a big win, you're done. I've been banned or limited in some way (either ridiculously small betting stakes or not able to use fixed odds) with the following:

Ladbrokes - Banned after 6 weeks (they got around $10k out of me, then after 1 win of around $2k I was banned immediately). Great business practise there. Bookmaker.com.au same situation (affiliated).

Sportsbet - Banned from fixed odds after 48 hours in international racing, then another 24 hours with Aus Racing. Same with IAS as they're affiliated. Also limited to pennies with both on sports. Both accounts are basically useless.

BetVictor - Banned after a win on soccer.

StanJames - Banned after a win on Tennis.


The obvious common denominator is "UK-owned". Ladbrokes and the rest should have just left my accounts open or not restrict them - they'd have thousands more out of me by now...


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