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lomaca 27th July 2012 12:05 PM

An experiment (greyhound racing)
 
Some selections for today, if more than one selection then take a pick, they are in alphabetical order only, no special preference as far as I'm concerned.

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12:45 10 Addington ANOTHER COFFEE 12:45 10 Addington BELFAST SUZY 12:45 10 Addington CRIXUS 13:20 12 Addington BELFAST MUNCHA 13:20 12 Addington BOTANY BARB 13:20 12 Addington CAWBOURNE CATCH 13:32 2 Gawler BOSS SAMMY SAM 13:32 2 Gawler CIRCUIT ASSASSIN 13:37 6 Casino BRALYN DAVE 13:37 6 Casino ERIN NORRIS 14:07 4 Gawler DATZ GOTEM 14:07 4 Gawler FRASER ISLAND 14:12 8 Casino BLACK DOLCE 14:12 8 Casino DARK AND STORMY 14:12 8 Casino HILLCREST GWEN 14:42 6 Gawler MAX I AM 14:47 10 Casino BEER SHEVA 14:47 10 Casino EXCEL LIKE LIFE 15:05 2 Hatrick ANOTHER DRIZZLE 15:05 2 Hatrick BINTY FLAHERTY 15:05 2 Hatrick CAWBOURNE DARCY 15:19 8 Gawler CLAY'S CHOICE 15:19 8 Gawler CLUB TOWN 15:25 12 Casino GIFTHY 15:25 12 Casino MISS OCTANE 15:45 4 Hatrick ASTONISHING 15:59 10 Gawler BOSS SCRUFFY WAG 15:59 10 Gawler COQUIHALLA 16:04 2 Ipswich EXECUTOR 16:04 2 Ipswich FOUR WAY MOUSE 16:07 2 Bendigo BEACH SAND 16:07 2 Bendigo CHEEKY CHEEKS 16:07 2 Bendigo COME ON BEAR 16:17 2 The Gardens ARCHIE'S FLASH 16:17 2 The Gardens GOODWIN MAGGIE 16:25 6 Hatrick BIGTIME SURPRISE 16:25 6 Hatrick HOMEBUSH BUFFY 16:44 4 Ipswich BARRIO QUEEN 16:44 4 Ipswich BIG TIME RUSH 16:47 4 Bendigo JOSH MILNE 16:58 4 The Gardens BIG TOMMIE 16:58 4 The Gardens JAKE'S RUN 17:24 8 Hatrick ANOTHER STAR 17:24 8 Hatrick HOMEBUSH MELL 17:24 8 Hatrick JUST MAC 17:24 6 Ipswich ALLEGED 17:24 6 Ipswich HOT TIGER 17:33 6 Bendigo ALLEN EMMETT 17:33 6 Bendigo APRIL'S LEGACY 17:33 6 Bendigo ARVO'S TWINK 17:38 6 The Gardens DOZEN POINTS 18:07 8 Ipswich BLACKBERRY 18:07 8 Ipswich MULLOKA 18:12 8 Bendigo BREATHE FEAR 18:22 8 The Gardens COLONEL COOL 18:22 8 The Gardens EMA'S PRINCESS 18:23 10 Hatrick ANOTHER BREEZE 18:47 10 Ipswich BLACK MAGIC MAN 18:55 10 Bendigo CAKEAHOLIC 18:55 10 Bendigo JERRY HATRICK 18:58 10 The Gardens APPIN ERIC 18:58 10 The Gardens BLACK GINGER 19:23 12 Hatrick BIMBOO 19:23 12 Hatrick BOTANY ANGELA 19:23 12 Hatrick CAWBOURNE ELLEN 19:28 2 Geelong JERSEY SKY 19:40 2 Wentworth Park ANOTHER PENGALA 19:40 2 Wentworth Park GO IVAN 20:10 4 Geelong GATES OF STEEL 20:10 4 Geelong GOLD MILLIONS 20:17 4 Wentworth Park AT THE GRIND 20:17 4 Wentworth Park BAIRNSDALE BEAR 20:47 6 Geelong FULL NOISE TURBO 20:47 6 Geelong GOLD AFFAIR TWO 20:57 2 Mandurah BOOM GASPAR 20:57 2 Mandurah COOL ACES 20:57 2 Mandurah EXCESSIVE SPEED 20:58 6 Wentworth Park AVONDALE MILANO 20:58 6 Wentworth Park BLACK VALIANT 21:28 8 Geelong BORN TO STAR 21:28 8 Geelong CORINGEL SPIRIT 21:28 8 Geelong DESTINY SHAKER 21:34 4 Mandurah BUCKLE UP TYLER 21:34 4 Mandurah GLEN ABBEY CHILL 21:40 8 Wentworth Park AWESOME KEITH 21:40 8 Wentworth Park BOLT LOCK BOLT 21:40 8 Wentworth Park CLIMATE CAFE 22:10 10 Geelong HELLBENT LAD 22:11 6 Mandurah BUDDY BE COOL 22:11 6 Mandurah DE WADE 22:11 6 Mandurah GIVE AND TAKE 22:17 10 Wentworth Park FLYING ALBI 22:17 10 Wentworth Park FRIENDLY FIRE 22:46 8 Mandurah FOSSICK 22:46 8 Mandurah MIGHTY HELPFUL 22:47 12 Geelong LAYTON BOSS 23:27 10 Mandurah DERRICK'S BOY 23:27 10 Mandurah MIDNIGHT REQUEST 00:02 12 Mandurah CHRISSIE CON

good luck

lomaca 28th July 2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lomaca
Some selections for today, if more than one selection then take a pick, they are in alphabetical order only, no special preference as far as I'm concerned.

good luck
That was a pathetic attempt, too many bets I suppose.

Out $98
In $91.80

Give it a couple more days and then back to the drawing board with this one.

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17:02 1 The Gardens BELLA DIOR 17:22 2 The Gardens BIT TOEY 17:38 3 The Gardens ALABAMA PRESENCE 18:21 4 Traralgon DONGY 19:14 8 The Gardens BINDA GRACE 19:38 2 The Meadows BARBARA BALE 19:38 2 The Meadows FERRARI BALE 19:38 2 The Meadows GARETT BALE 19:39 3 Richmond CASSAR GIRL 19:39 3 Richmond GO MIGHTY SHIRAZ 19:49 8 Traralgon DR. PYROIS 20:39 6 Richmond DARK HAWK 20:51 11 Traralgon CHEWY'S GIRL 20:59 7 Richmond BIT RICH 21:09 12 Traralgon COOP JAK 21:09 12 Traralgon DAMAGED GOODS 21:12 6 Wentworth Park FLASH WATERS 21:20 7 The Meadows ALLEN HERTZ 21:21 8 Richmond DANGER MOUSE 21:21 8 Richmond GAIL THE WEAPON 21:27 2 Cannington BLACK BENJI 21:35 7 Wentworth Park BUDDY RIGHT 21:35 7 Wentworth Park CAUSING KAOS 21:47 3 Cannington DEUTRONIUM 21:50 8 The Meadows BARCIA BALE 21:50 8 The Meadows DESALLE BALE 21:57 8 Wentworth Park CHASING GLORY 21:57 8 Wentworth Park EBONITE 22:05 4 Cannington AUTOAMERICAN 22:05 4 Cannington BELARUS 22:15 9 Wentworth Park AMADEUS STRIKES 22:15 9 Wentworth Park AU REVOIR 22:20 9 The Meadows CHIEF BAMBURY 22:20 9 The Meadows CHINA ASH 22:27 5 Cannington HOT IRISH 22:32 10 Wentworth Park ADDICTION 22:32 10 Wentworth Park JACKSON TYNE 22:37 10 The Meadows DOOMED 22:37 10 The Meadows FIERY 22:47 6 Cannington CETANE 22:47 6 Cannington EXPLICIT DANCER 22:55 11 The Meadows LEEROY ROCKER 23:07 7 Cannington FREEWAY FAME 23:07 7 Cannington MARKED DOWN 23:12 12 The Meadows DYNA DENNY 23:12 12 The Meadows KEVIN BALE 23:27 8 Cannington FAST CAPPA 23:27 8 Cannington HALLPACK JIMMY 23:47 9 Cannington ALEISHA ALLEN 23:47 9 Cannington DOLLSTAN CRUISE 00:02 10 Cannington COOL RUSH 00:02 10 Cannington CRASHIN' KOBY 00:17 11 Cannington MIRACLE SHIRAZ 00:32 12 Cannington BELUCCI 00:32 12 Cannington DIPLOMATIC LADY 00:32 12 Cannington HYSTERIA MISS


Good luck

moeee 28th July 2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lomaca
That was a pathetic attempt, too many bets I suppose.

Out $98
In $91.80

is this win or place results , and what pool are you using for your dividend records?

lomaca 28th July 2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by moeee
is this win or place results , and what pool are you using for your dividend records?
Win only, with the dogs I don't bother for the place.
VicTab (Supertab)

lomaca 29th July 2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lomaca
That was a pathetic attempt, too many bets I suppose.

Out $98
In $91.80

Give it a couple more days and then back to the drawing board with this one.

Previous two patients DOA.
May they RIP
The less said the better.

Made some changes.
Text file. This time they are sorted in what "I think" they should be.
good luck

moeee 29th July 2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lomaca
Made some changes.
This time they are sorted in what "I think" they should be.

I don't get it.
Is it the best bet of the day is the very first animal and the worst bet the last mentioned animal?

You haven't just separated animals in the same race , but have done more than that.

When you say "I THINK" , you previously admittedly suggest your knowledge of things greyhound are somewhat lacking , is the "I THINK" based on previous results , and the method you employ?

Can you not see that occasionally your method throws out an Odds On Chance , and then in other cases it throws out 100 to 1 shots.

This sort of output is very similar to random numbers or the dartboard approach.

Good Luck with it though.

lomaca 29th July 2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by moeee
I don't get it.
Is it the best bet of the day is the very first animal and the worst bet the last mentioned animal?

You haven't just separated animals in the same race , but have done more than that.
I don't get what you mean?
Maybe I should have elaborated but did not see a reason for it.
After all, the races are in time order and the animals are sorted according MY ranking. if I had allocated prices for them, then they would be in an ascending order.
Can't see any problem there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by moeee
When you say "I THINK" , you previously admittedly suggest your knowledge of things greyhound are somewhat lacking , is the "I THINK" based on previous results , and the method you employ?

Can you not see that occasionally your method throws out an Odds On Chance , and then in other cases it throws out 100 to 1 shots.

This sort of output is very similar to random numbers or the dartboard approach.

Good Luck with it though.
Really moeee we try to accommodate your idiosyncrasies and put up with your nasty outbursts, but do have to do it?
Why can't you let us indulge in our little phantasies and let things be?
Win lose or break even, when I post I don't ask anyone to follow my tips.

lomaca 29th July 2012 10:20 AM

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Previous two patients DOA.
May they RIP
The less said the better.

Made some changes.
Text file. This time they are sorted in what "I think" they should be.
good luck
Don't know what happened!
The text file got scrambled as far as the jump-time is concerned.
See if it gets through OK this time?

Yup, seems to be OK!
Must have been a gremlin in the works, was all right on this side.
Oh well never mind.

moeee 29th July 2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lomaca
Don't know what happened!
The text file got scrambled as far as the jump-time is concerned.

Hardly my fault that I found it originally confusing then.

I was only trying to understand your method.
i best leave you to it , as our relationship is starting to fall apart again.

Cheers and sorry for upsetting you.

lomaca 29th July 2012 12:42 PM

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Previous two patients DOA.

The less said the better.

Made some changes.

I have now tested these changed selections for this month, separately for each day.
They lose on some on those days but the overall profit covers the losses for each of those particular days. (like Mondays are still in profit despite of two losing Mondays)

Also true that there are some big priced winners amongst the smaller ones, but I name those dogs in advance not claim them in retrospect!

My methods maybe unorthodox and frowned upon by the "purist", but so what?

It's the bottom line that matters!

Here are the results, should be easy to check, all dividends are Supertab.

lomaca 29th July 2012 12:44 PM

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Here are the results
Here are the other two results

lomaca 29th July 2012 12:58 PM

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Here are the other two results
Disregard all the following, posted the wrong .... files again. They are erroneous!
Will post the proper ones shortly!!!

Humble apologies.

lomaca 29th July 2012 01:11 PM

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Disregard all the following, posted the wrong .... files again. They are erroneous!
Will post the proper ones shortly!!!

Humble apologies.
Here is Sunday's

the rest will follow later

lomaca 29th July 2012 01:21 PM

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Here is Sunday's

the rest will follow later
Thursdays

lomaca 29th July 2012 01:29 PM

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Thursdays
Of course it must be realised that I counted every selection as a bet!
In real life, hopefully, a punter would bet according to his own judgment and markets.

As I certainly do.

lomaca 29th July 2012 08:14 PM

post mortem today
 
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After all the mistakes I made in posting (old files) today, here is the outcome of today's effort. (one race was cancelled at Strathalbyn)

Again I emphasise the fact that I count every selection as a bet and even so it nearly broke even on place and narrowly missed on some wins.

But in all fairness "shouda-coulda-woulda" in this game don't count.

It was, as I stated in the title, an experiment, didn't expect any reaction whatsoever let alone a hostile one.

If we don't try new things new discoveries will never be made and if new ways are discouraged by being clobbered on the head at birth then they never will be!

But never mind, I leave this field to the tried and true fellows here who are obviously infallible and know it all.

Good luck to you all.

woof43 30th July 2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lomaca

It was, as I stated in the title, an experiment, didn't expect any reaction whatsoever let alone a hostile one.
If we don't try new things new discoveries will never be made and if new ways are discouraged by being clobbered on the head at birth then they never will be!
But never mind, I leave this field to the tried and true fellows here who are obviously infallible and know it all.

Good luck to you all.


a friend recently said to me

"scientific knowledge doubles every 5 years, so what scientists believed 5 years ago could be proven wrong today
of course, scientists are continually dedicating themselves to new research.
mathematicians just continue to pontificate and ignore facts which might conflict with their theories."

which provides us our bread an butter


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