Mav will be heartbroken. Another 2nd. Is Lair ever going to win a race? :)

Poor old Lair ..he's been fun to back of late becaue he never loses any money for me ...oneday he'll get there the poor thing..

Nice tip with Double Spirits Luv2 ..bit short but the trifecta was more than handy ...Nice win by Stratagee gee and a nice tri a couple of times as well ..and a good place divie for Olympic james....
looking ok today so far ..
confident about Brakenbury and Johnny be good,,and hopefully at odds Gorilla biscuit wil get up ...had a nice win on Lindalay today ..couldnt beleive the odds they were giving..
Had a few losses today that are briinging me back down but fingers crossed ,,,as i'm still making up ground from the disasterous Sunday Monday..

well done stix ..

ouch..thought Johnny was home....would of been a nice tri to

Got a bit of mail about Denises Diamonds in the next at Doomben ... must admit i wasnt a big fan of the races today in Brissie ..Scarred was ordinarry but Lindalay was just incredible overs ...so im ahead here ,,,so why not ..
I can trust this mail usually ..so im having a go at Denise's Diamonds ..i'll take the 5's ..but i'm not super confident ..

Nice run by brakenbury ..looks like he really needed it to ..

Go Denise and go the biscuit :)

Perhaps I should think about those field trifectas you have, Mav. $2105 in the last in Sydney with Loftily winning!!! Bit risky for me though. :o

Anyway, 3 from 3 with my specials today. Not too bad.

soooooo close
 

Close with Denise's Diamond Mav, Had 1 Win x 3 Plc so $2.00 place was stilla good result.

Thanks Fella

Yeah the fields are they way to go ...who would of picked that donkey to get 2nd ...i had just about everything else but him in my tris and 1st4's ..

wow I'm picking a few 2nds of late ..
whats the odds Gorilla Biscuit finishes 2nd.. lol

Seconds!!
 

Mav, keep those thoughts to yourself. Of course I had the biscuit straight up too....lol

oooooh sooooo close again !
 

Mav, u mozzed the "Biscuit".....lol ..... another 2nd ..... having some sort of run. I had 1Wx3P again... thanks once again.

OMG ..i should be just having place bets ...3 2nds in a row and an unplaced Brakenbury bill....
undid all that good work i'd done earlier ..after all that a loss for the day ..nothing drastic but still dissapointing after a good start for the day ..
grrrrrr ..
Meterorite is in the cup tomorrow ...big step for the big fella ..but i think he can do it ..
i think umatricks running aswell,,,,will have to get the videos out and get stuck in ..
2 days to go to make up the deficit ..its given me a challenge now .. :)

its a funny game racing ..if i get even just 1 of those 2nds to win ..i'm up a 200 slabs .. :( instead i'm down 5 slabs..
would be heading out to the barn if Saturdays werent so good to me ..

have to say that Bagwans and Marks system to stop after a profit is sometimes the way to go..if i'd had stopped after Lindalay i'd be be up a 100 slabs ..
then again if they had all won i'd be tearin my head off..

always tomorrow boys...and well done Stix ..i'm glad someone had a win following my horses who dont like winning :)

atleast i'm good entertainment . ;)

Heads up Mav, as you say always tomorrow.
Reckon i'll stick with ya.
cheers

Gday Mav...

I have meteorite on top for the cup... It is a pretty good field assembled this year.. My ratings fav track and distance winners (tend to throw some long priced winners up).. I have ol faithful Serpentine as 2nd rater.. now I think 50's would be a fair price for him ... what do you think? Also do u Give zagalia a show.. Interested in your thoughts

Summary..
Not a blunder... Raced exactly how I thought but just didnt have the finish, rattled home as expected. Thought $5 for the win was very genorous, but still made a nice profit with the $2 place.
Huck finn.... Nothing to write home about here and thats the last time he gets my money.
Serene prince..... won like the good thing he was. Odds were down from what i hoped for but a wins a win.
Double spirits...... Won like the good thing he was. Once again, $5 in the paper looked a whole lot better but couldnt go past him, another winner all the same.
Bellanto...... another winner
Loftily...... and for something different..... another winner..
Didnt break any records with the prices but CLEANED UP all the same...
Hope someone got on a few of these!!!!

LUV2BET

Thanks for all your tips boys. I always find them a great way to start my form analysis.


In fact I have noticed that if you look at all of your tips (including Williams posted on his "private" thread) and back any horse which is tipped by more than one person ( I always back in a 1:3 or 1:4 ratio) the strike rate for the place is great and over the short time I have tried it as a side to my usual betting it has been in profit. I leave a race alone if different forum members have tipped different horses.

Hey stix, why did you like pinakahari?
Just curious as I NEVER back first up horses without a first up record. Was there a whisper or something?

Might just add another unheralded performance from the main man sportz...
Well done mate, glad to see you tippin' again.....
CHEERS
LUV2BET

Hey Mav, I know this might be hard for you to believe, but not everyone knows how much a 'slab' is. :)

$34.65 at my RSL

Great work today by all Mav (bad luck mate), L2B (killed em), Sportz (great win by Collate, and plenty more winners as well), Stix (Made graveyard Melbourne look like punters paradise), plenty of winners around but i only came out square today $0 outlayed $0 lost.

Having the rest of the week off, be back Saturday when we'll do it all again.

Hi X and all ..
I like the cup tomorrow..
Narrowed it down to 4 chances IMO Meteorite , Famous dane , Concitare ,and Rodeo Chut Out .
Meteorite is the new kid on the block .. and the one that could be something in the future,,he does alot of things wrong in his races ..he's still learning ,, but he's still winning which says hes got something special..i'll stick with him here because no other horse here has his final sprint ..
Famous Dane is alittle one paced but is a real proffessional horse ...he never runs a bad race and i think against this lot has a show..
Concitare ..i think has lost a few admiriers ..but his run last start was solid and when he failed against Extra Dollars the start before he had no chance as it was a real sit and sprint run race..
Rodeo Chut out is always consistant ..he got into a bumping duel last start when he looked to have some running in him..the starts before were all solid...

will stick with Meteorite..hes been real good to me ,,hopefully he wont be to short ...if the odds about Famous Dane are good i'll have something there aswell..

*Fine Dane is in the 6th race here ..this horse has been running on well ...this isnt a hard race for him here .. his last try at 1600m last prep he finished close up to Lorne Valley in a class 3 ..
he'll be running on but i'd want some odds about him....Mafia Don the toppy is a horse i always bag ..but the track here should suit him..but i just dont like him...hopefully everyone backs him as usual and he starts ridiculous odds again...hes got 2 from 20 ..and i wonder how many times hes started fav..

*Meanma....horse if flying along..great run last start..was super unlucky...the toppy looks the hard one to beat ,,,shes jumping up in grade sharply but i think she can do it .she hit the line like the 1200m will suit ,,hopefully nice e/w odds.

*Mr Monde...this horse cam up as a video special...******************** doesnt even list that race...not sure whats going on here..but keep an eye on him..

*Grand Merlot..i said last time i wouldnt back him unless he drops in grade..but i'm suckedin again..hes got the good barrier here so hopefully he settles alittle closer...hes also got a weight pull on the horse that beat him last time.....he'll be fitter now and should be peaking ..


*Shirvirgo...great run last start...people might think hes a risk at 1400m but his form around Uncle Shamos at that distance is good...the inside barrier is super for him..if he can dictate he'll be hard to catch..


*Dame Nellie...won very well last start...bunch of donkeys in this race that i couldnt be bothered rating....should win here but id want a price..

*Honour Kate..horse flys home for good placings all the time...but in much harder races than this one....if she cant win here send her to the breeding barn...which i think she'll be going to anyway..

Heaps of action again today.....lately ive got 3 winners from 14 selections with 7 minor placegetters..and 4 unplaced...
very frustrating..but heaps of fun...

Good luck all :)

I wont be betting on the cup but here are the 2 horses that i think will do well.

Best Bet
Famous Dane - only thing going against this one is the poor track form.

Long Shot
Yerevan - Good form in some nice races should come home strong.

That's like a win! :D

Zagalia
 

Don't like betting in Country Cups; but I notice in today's 'Sydney Morning Herald' that John Singleton (owner) says he will happily pay $1000 for a cup of coffee at his favourite take-away coffee bar tomorrow if Zagalia wins!

Tip for or against???

The same column in the 'Herald' estimated yesterday that Singleton would have to earn $156,250 an hour to maintain his current 'BRW' rating. So the 'tip' probably tells us nothing.

Hi guys..
Liking the meeting today at Coffss
confident about Meterorite ..hopefully will get some sort off odds about him just has to get balanced in the straight to catch Famous dane who will be in it for a long way..
Meanma ...looks good also ...going to be hard to beat the toppy with Robbo aboard but i'm comnfident
Boy's talk ran well last start against Shysu ..and if shysu was in the race he'll be probably fav...in good form ..and the claim helps as does the long straight..would want some sort of price though..
the long straight should suit Planet Lover as well..this horse is an old fella but when he winds up hes hard to hold out..
Fine dane although a hard race here and bad barrier should run well again for me..would want some sort off odds though..
been tipped about Win for us in the last ..not sure yet but if i'm winning and the odds are good i'll have a go..
in an open race in the 2nd Mr Monde is a query ..tried to find the replay of his last race but couldnt..must of liked something about it though,,

In the other meets ..Shivirgo looks to good ..but will be to short..
not sure about Dame Nellie in the heavy bog...Mikdar looks good in brissie .

will leave Honour Kate alone just to costly Rugatq in the same race rates highly as well..cant seperate them so i'll just leave it unless the odds suck me in..
and grand Merlot will have something e/w on him...gets his last chance here before the glue factory gets him..

having a big go at Meteorite today ..my biggest since Consular's win ...hopefully he runs straight today :)

good luck all

Mav, your coming second more then my missus' at the moment, keep confident mate your selections are good there's just always one better.

Just lookin at the tote.. The Coffs Cup... Zagalia has come up pretty short.. as I said elsewhere, she is the class, but I ain sure how she has come up... I reckon she is a risk.. but I have been wrong b4 Good to see Serpentine at 50's and Rodeo Chute Out at 20's... look for the ol grey to be rattlin home at the death.. It should be a good race.. just about E/W the field

Now that result in the cup is why i didnt put any $'s on anything. nice odds if you managed to get it right.

The only thing I got right was risking Zagalia :(

I don't know if you've ever done this, but I don't mind backing horses which open up REALLY short on the TAB and get out to good odds at race time. When I first looked at the Unitab odds on the cup this morning, Concitaire was paying $1.80!!! So when I saw what it was paying at jump time, I decided to have a few dollars on. There was another one of these that I backed yesterday. Primus in the first race in Sydney opened up at $1.20 and eventually paid over $6.

Anyway, I ended up having a small each way bet on Concitaire, and also Extra Dollars as it was the Unitab Rating System selection. I should have had them both in a quinella or any2 or something.

Country Cups are always pretty hard I reckon... but being a country boy I love em... I will always put the hard earned on.. ya just never know.. Most country cups are capacity fields and anything can and quite often does happen... I am not sure that favs have a great record in CC's .. someone may know, but quite often a niced priced winner can be found... didnt find one today, but there are plenty more to come in the coming weeks and months, culminating in that Country Cup they hold at Flemmo on the 1st Tuesday in Nov.. they call it the Melbourne Cup I think, and most people will have a go in that.. in a race which is probably the hardest race of the year to find the winner... 24 average handicappers..and some real plodders ....overseas horses.. millions at stake...ANNNNND it's a G1 jeez.. and I reckon country cups are hard :)

gday Sportz

there musta been about 10 bucks in the pool at that stage :)

Primus is an O'Shea trained horse that paid about 6 bucks down here as well

No, there was a couple of thousand in the pool. The same yesterday with Primus. I always make sure that there's at least that sort of amount in there. I know that's not a lot compared to the eventual pool size, but these early favourites do often end up winning at nice odds.

Oops posted in Brians thread instead of here...hope u got some slab $$$ back with Grand Merlot Mav...good EW tri and exacta...great stuff!!

My workmate owns rainbow fortune who won at murray bridge today. I wasnt going to back it until the trainer (who trains a horse Im in on) said get on. Wasnt near a computer at the time so sorry for that, I had a fair crack on it and my mate will probably still be smiling in 2 years. 50-1 is always nice.
Our horse is only 4-5 weeks away from its first run, and now with some early confidence for the trainer, this being his first win, things are looking good.
Ill keep yous all posted.
Hope there were some winners about today.

What a rollercoaster ride todays was.....unbelievable ..
*Meanma ..nearly got there ...2nd (counting the 3 in row late yesterday now 4 in a row)
*Mikdar ....same story ,,,, 2nd again (number 5 in a row ?? not funny anymore)
*Boy's talk ...yep you guessed it 2nd again ??? what the ??
*Fine Dane .... altogether now !! 2ND !!! ..( 7 in a row ) ...atleast a e/w here so a good result ..
*Planet Lover ...UNPLACED ..atleast it wasnt 2nd ...sigh of relief ..
*Meteorite ...UNPLACED and had a triple stake go at him..not sure what happened my guess is he layed in and got bashed around ..listened to the call and when i heard where he was in running i was never confident..

Gave Concitare a good wining chance in my earlier summary..had him on top in tris ect but no Extra dollars ..dam horse cost me the 1st4 aswell,,
good race this in hindsight to target bet ...with the odds like they were ..should of had a go on my 4 selections for the win ..Famous dane, Rodeo , Concitare and Meteorite ..to win $2000 or so ..just got greedy i think and went all out on Meteorite for the win ..
but 5/1 was better than i thought i'd get ..

*Win For Us ... 3rd ..just to change it up a bit..e/w here so no damage ..

just when i thought it was all over bar the shouting
*Grand Merlot gets up ..Thank you Lord ...
huge result ...huge tri a couple of times even a nice exacta a few times ..
finally a decent result ...:) woohooo

8 races 1 win, 4 2nds, 1 3rd, 2unp,

and after all that i'm up alittle bit..enough to pay for yesterday ..still behind for the week though..not by much ..
Have to answer the challenge and get a profit tomorrow ,,
exciting stuff ...will Mav win the battle ?? or will he have his first losing week for ages.. ?
any tips guys ?? and no 2nds please ;)

Well done Mav, i was really feeling for ya after Meteorite never got near them, thought you must have been having a shocker.

For what it's worth i had 1 bet today a ********y $100 on Gothic Lord, and it ran 2nd. Thankfully i only backed it to place, very rare for me, the only reason i put it on was because it's an absolute nob in the wet and it was ********ing down all last night and this morning. Up $60 for the day and happy as a pig in the proverbial.

Unitab 100 rater. Should have had him. :)

I can't talk though. I backed both Concitaire and Extra Dollars each way, but didn't bother taking any multiples at all with them. Could have cleaned up. 3rd and 4th were easy to pick.

Hi Mr Ed ..yep was heading for my biggest loss in ages before Grand Merlot got up ,,cant tell you how frustrating it got ,,4 2nds but the thing is they were all close 2nds aswell... doing my head in ..
wonder what they'll do with Meteorite ..they might send him to town ...

Sportz...yep missed the boat with Concitare ..i liked his previous runs and i knew he'd be overlooked because of his last start failure,,but the tempo was way against him there...was against him today aswell but Whitely wasnt going to let it happen again..great ride....

when concitare got up and i knew i didnt have extra dollars anywhere and after the day i was having .. i was tempted to take my bat and go home ..
.real test of character is this punting .. and i'm only a part timer ..

Geez Mav, you seemed to have been backing that Grand Merlot for ages with no success. I think I would have given up before you did. He owed you a win with the faith you showed in him.

probably only the one tomorrow :(
Mornington R3 .. Admiral Jack..this fellow will like the longer distance ..hard to rate these types of races but he stands out on my figures ..battles along at the one pace but i can see him grinding them all into the ground tomorrow..

dont really like anything tomorrow...like to be at the track at mornington to see what Spartiate looks like ,,,has some ability this horse ...
maybe the tote will give an indication..
Orrong in Mackay looks real good ..guessing he'l be way to short for me though..

Looks like i'm pushing it uphill to get ahead this week,,,but in a week where i've had almost three times as much selections as usual and a freakish run of placings ..i should be thank full for still keeping the shirt on my back.

who knows ..if Admiral Jack gets up ..i might be in the black yet :)

any tips guys ? ..looks like a tough day tomorrow .. already looking forward to Saturday :)