Big Mick a chance in the next at Brissie Mav?

don't like the race ...the rail out ..hes a big fella that needs room ...they might be to quick for him here .. Mix and telemont rate the highest for me ..
will have a play with these 2 in trifectas ect..
have them both in my treble thats still alive..

Go BIG MICK, sneaky Sheoks b**tard

thats why i never liked the race..to hard ...there goes my treble....

isnt Big Mick a giant of a horse...made gullivers travells look like a pony..

tough horse is Ruben....been good to me that horse until today...
1st4 might be some consolation ..
back on the good track after doing ok on the dead last start..

silly boy :(

isn't Hipster Doofus short for a horse that gets so far back and needs luck..
to scary for me..
will have an e/w on Simons Comet for interests sake,,,should be more prominent this time..

lucky he was to scary...made sense to be on a one of the front runners in that race..Simons Comet just hasnt the legs to match it with them in the beginning..


wow Decibeel very impressive !!

Front runners, yeah.. Leading, never good.. Although, to her credit, she fought on. Think Rogues was the only horse people hadnt said since noms would beat Lady. Thats kinda amusing. Knew I should have paid more attention to that 2.2l 4th behind the biscuit..

Might have a little bit on one of my old favs in OakPark Shannon in the next, she's up in class but is just so consistent and racing well this prep. Won at the track, 30/1 why not?

good 2nd though..had every chance...
Hipster and Cincinatti were always going to need luck,,

...wish you were on earlier..might i've got that 1st4 ...

I agree Mr ed ..worth an e/w for sure..

trying real hard to get backable odds about Master D ...dont like my chances..

I'll leave Master D alone at that price...but will have some fun with the exotics..

will take the money and run today..a small profit but a win is a win :) lets not be greedy..
win with Seven Crownies..
Frustrating 2nds with Tristo and Lord Braemar,,
loss as well with True Corser ,,

Hope you guys had a goodn :)

Odds on, look on! :eek:

Anybody that thought Master Denis was a risk, could have got a nice trifecta or first4 there!

wow..my best decision of the day ..
didnt agree with taking off on him when he missed the start..should of rode him for luck ,,
he'll keep and next time i might get backable odds about him ..

funny game racing ..best of the day runs last ???

good advice Sportz..
yep i had a couple of 1st4's with others on top..just not Dukes Sam..

Glad i left Hipster and Master D alone today...
getting more disciplined of late :)

A few in the stable tomorrow,,
Ipswich
*Green Lagonda, *Magique Mine, *Legcapa
others
*Sandy Shore , *Miss Celia

Good Luck Guys....and good luck to the socceroooos
$7.50 about 2 nil ...not bad,,,

You're not betting with your heart, are you???

She did indeed. Dont like it when she leads though. At least got to set her own pace. Jeff knows what he is doing with her.

And I was. Was lurking. Sorry. Was thinking about commenting but was also trying to hear the commentary on TV. But after a third behind Wild Queen and Force Apollo, I guess I was a little surprised at the $3.90 for the place on the NSWTab. That was by no means a slow run 1300. But when it comes to Lady, I would never miss putting money on her with Penza riding. She doesnt normally like people. ;)

*shuts up now* :D

Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi
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Aussie oi
Aussie oi
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..... and a little p i s s e d ........ go the green and gold ! ...... still don't under stand that w o g ball........ anyway...... where was I.... ??? .... ah that's right..... Ausssie Aussie Aussie.....

NZ Tips
 

Anyone know who does the NZ tips for Radio TAB on the TABONLINE website....?

Cos he/she is shizzenhausen........

Cos he/she is shizzenhausen........

LOL i live in NZ and I never bet in NZ or on NZ races..it sucks imo...

I think his name is Jack Petley and he does tips for all the NZ races at all tracks.

w924

I don't bet there either....... just noticed the tips on the website are very very poor..... another reason to stay away.



Thanks Sportz. Jack's strike rate is not real good. Seems anythig between 10-1 and 60-1 beats his tips...... so maybe he helps by narrowing it down for anyone having a go in NZ..... by not backing those he has tipped.... :D

Hi Sportz:

Got any tips for Cranbourne or Coffs Harbour today?


Regards,

Glenn

Not really. I'm sort of experimenting with a new strategy at the moment and not sure how it will go. That's why I didn't post any tips yesterday as I usually do on a Wednesday.

For what it's worth, I think 5-8 Evilweb at Cranbourne could be good. Doesn't look like much value though. And in race 8 at Cranboune, I think 1 & 2 cood be good value. I'd be looking at perhaps 1,2,10,8 - 4,6 in that race.

Thanks.

Glenn

Certainly wasn't any value!!!

Meanwhile in Coffs Harbour Race 8, I was thinking about 3,6,1,7 - 2,5.

Sportz, others,

I haven't seen a lot here on the forum about the paddock inspection of a horse before a race. What do you think of the following:

Looking at a horses physicality and attitude is the last thing you visibly can see before the horse actually runs the race. The form only gives you what the horse has done in the past, looking at the physicality and mentality today can give you tips on how he will run today. The day your actually wagering on the horse. Horses are not machines and their form can be good or bad at any given time.

How many of you have pets? Cats, Dogs or maybe some other animal. Can you tell by their actions when they are mad, happy, not feeling well or feeling great?


The Walk:
Horses that have good and proper extension will always have the rear hoof print exceed the front hoof print when they walk. Watch the front hoof print and see if the back hoof print exceeds (goes over) the print left by the front.

If it does not, the horse could have an extension problem or soreness. You find alot of these types in the lower level claiming races but I have seen this in grade 1's before to.

If they are walking properly they are said to be "walking well"
If they are not walking properly they are said to be "walking short"

This is best seen when they are walking the paddock before the race.

Walking the paddock:
When a horse walks in the paddock with the groom, the horse should walk with his head towards the groom. If the horse is walking looking around repeatedly and not paying attention to the grooms lead that is not a good sign of focusing on todays race.

Saddling:
Beware of horses that are getting saddled with an attitude. The horse should accept that the saddle is being put on and be still. Horses that try to refuse the saddle are not good bets as they are displaying the unwillingness to get ready to race. Lost In The Fog did this saturday when getting saddled at the breeders cup if any of you saw this.

Fractious Horses:
Horses that are just plain wild in the paddock or the post parade. They show no interest in racing today and burn a ton of energy while doing this. Fractious horses refuse any command by the jockey or the outrider and are trying to break away. Not a good sign of willingness to race today.

Coat of a horse:
The coat of a horse should radiate the sun. You can see the rich, deep color of the horse. This is a sign of healthiness. Horses with healthy coats will look as if they were sprayed with a clear coat. Horses with bad coats will soak the sun up.

Sweating:
Depending on the day watch for horses that are real wet. On hot days you would expect a horse to be a little sweaty but not washed out. Washed out is a term used when a horse is drenched in sweat. Watch for horses sweating on cold days. This is not a good sign at all. On the other side, watch for horses that are pretty dry on hot days. Kidney sweat is the white foamy substance between the horses hind quarters. Its not uncommon for horses to have kidney sweat but on occasion you will see them dripping the kidney sweat down their legs. Again not a good sign. In the paddock area watch for horses that have alot of sweat. The horse hasnt done anything yet so they should not be sweating in the paddock. If you ever see a horse sweating in the pits of the front legs, stay away from that horse like he has the plague. This area is the hardest for a horse to sweat in and you almost never see them sweat there.

Linaments:
Watch for sore horses. You will see horses on occasion with dark spots on the front chest area or the rump area. This is where the trainer has applied linament to a horse who is stiff in those areas or is just sore.

Dappling:
Dappling has to do with the coat. In the rump area generally you will see little circles as if they are coming up through the horses coat. This shows supreme healthiness. A word of caution is that grey horses almost always look like they are dappled. They are not always dappled I assure you, so look closely.


Tails:
The tail should be off the rump completely. It does not have to be sticking straight out from the horse but it does have to have separation. Horses that repeatedly swish their tails east and west show nervousness. Unless the paddock or track is infested with gnats they shouldnt be swatting at anything repeatedly. This shows nervousness in a horse. Arlington Park seems to be the only track where multiple horses every race swish their tails repeatedly. I have never been to Arlington but after seeing this for many years I may have to bring the raid when I do.

Ears:
Ears should be pricked forward. This shows interest. Horses that continually have their ears pricked forward without alot of movement will win majority of the races period. Horses that have their ears pricked forward with no movement do not happen often but I can show you 4 that I wagered on in the last 2 days with 3 winning and the other running second. Golden Rahy was one of them in race 7 at Santa Anita on sunday.

Ears that are pinned show unwillingness in a horse. The horse is mad, not feeling well but for sure has no interest in running today. Stay away from these animals.

Necks:
The neck should be bowed, almost as if he is holding an apple at his throat and holding it with his chin.

Horses that hold their head high, as if always trying to look over a fence, will most often start climbing at some point in the race.

You wont find all these positive or negative attributes in every horse race. Horses do win that are washy, just not very often. Horses do win when they are walking short, just not very often. You will be money ahead if you select on paper and play the horses that have good healthy attributes. Physicality and mentality go hand in hand. A horse that looks good with a bad attitude will not be a good choice. A horse with some of the bad physicality traits and a good attitude will run better than the latter. Be very wary of the horse that has good physicality and a good mental outlook today. Regardless if you liked the horse on paper he will run good today.

I'd appreciate your comments.

Regards,

Glenn

Well, I had a good win there with All Charisma, but I'm afraid I didn't really rate Chote's Girl a place chance. :o

Good post Glen,,i agree with all of it..
must admit i'm alittle forgiving in the sprints if a horse is alittle sweated up and if they are on their toes looking around ...means they are just bursting at the seams ...especially first up,,

I won't have a large bet on a horse unless i can see it in the flesh beforehand..


Good day so far for me ..1 for 2 ...nice collect on Sandy Shore but a loss on Magique Mine ..still have Miss Celia later on tonight ...might even get e/w odds about her..will mean i either win today or a break even .. ..
on a 6 day winning streak at the moment ,,nice when you can string a few together :)

Top post Glen. Really good. I have been looking for something just like what you have done as a rough guide. I am getting more and more interesten in the physical characteristics of horses and love the mounting yard. Also i go to the sales and like to be able to judge horses on their appearance aswell as times and galloping style. I am only 19, and question is not If i buy a horse but when. Hopefully the next couple of years.

Thanks for the info,
TS

Top shelf Glen, top shelf.

I wonder what you would have made of the English horse they sent over for the Melb. Cup a couple of years ago that lifted his near hind leg like he had just stepped in dog droppings? lol

PS. Glen you could also throw bandages into that mix as well.
ie:Bandaged on the rear OK as a rule
Bandaged on the front means a problem of some kind as a rule.

Well, they're aiming it at the Barnes Plate this week and then possibly the Queensland Cup the week after.

grrrr another 2nd
1 win (Sandy Shore) 2 2nds Magique Mine and Miss Celia to go with my 2 2nds yesterday...frustrating ..

Have to mention Mr Kiseki whos' racing tomorrow..last time i said if he cant win this race they should take him to the picnics..well hes almost there ..racing in Mackay now...
last start was fav ..mainly because Robbo was on and he knuckled at the start and almost lost the jock and pulled up sore,,,,,,must be ok if hes racing tomorrow and has the ability to win this...
i'm a sucker for the underdog so i'll be on ..

also have in the stable *Classy Planet, *Gilded Youth *Mr Ponsford..

Good Luck all :)

Hey! Watch it buddy!!! :D

Did okay today. Glad I didn't give up on night racing after a couple of bad ones recently. Tonight was good to me.

Yeah, a good run last time!

Shhh lets keep it between just us Sportz...might get a price :)
worried alittle about the wide barrier but great run last start and will be improved by it.
usually runs on from the back but has been up on the pace of late....from the barrier has the option of taking a sit if he cant get to the lead ,,
Statice is the one i'm scared about but mixes his form to much for me..


and do they have running water at Mackay yet ??? ;)

wonder if Mr Kiseki will turn out like Grand Marnier and Lair where i practically will it over the line eventually...

Yeah. It's called "rain". :D

And putting on a race meeting is usually a sure fire way to break a drought up here.

By the way, Mr Kiseki has gone to Wayne Pomfrett and he's often quite good at getting losing or unlucky horses from the south and turning them into winners up here.

Yeah. It's called "rain". :D

LOL Sportz...you've made my day

I see tyhe usual suspects are lurking on this thread. Hi everyone and good luck today.... hope the 2nds stay away.

Go XPT
 

tri in one on the first of the day for Xpt's ratings....maybe this is an omen for the rest of the day. Good Luck XPT