To cap off a loser, i will put $1 on Chut in the last at Geelong

No. GO VISCAY STAR!!! Nice Divvie. :D

Do you actually want to lose??? :D

I suppose Chut's got to win again one day. Won't have any of my money on it though.

Trying a new theory, doing the opposite of what i would normally. Not so hot so far!

OK OK, HAVE A CRACK AT RANCH AS WELL

:) :D :)

2 AIR COOLED 5.90 2.20 8 RANCH 3.90 13 WINNING MASTER 2.20	SCR 4 7 14
QN 2* 8 32.20 EX 2* 8 54.10 F4 2* 8*13* 9 2116.00	TF 2* 8*13 316.10 A2 2* 8 12.30 2*13 6.40 8*13 9.80

Well, he finished 4th. That's pretty much what I would have expected.

Not a great day for me today, but them's the breaks. No major damage done. Hope y'all went well.

Get 'em tommorrow

mad

You have your up and down days....... lately I've been going real well (but that call all change!)

Had a good day 2day...... very hapy with my multi's - single bets are useless at the moment........ disgraceful in fact ! :(

Blackbookers both saluted, but nothing flash although doubled my money..... so can not dare complain....

I see sportz had another good day...... does it day in day out (or in his case "mid week metro meetings in, weekend metro meetings out" LOL)

Not sure how X or mav went, but they seem to jag a couple of good ones......so they won't be eating fish n chips tonight....

Good luck tmorrow people ! :D

Hi guys ..an even day for me...
Started well with collects on Pager (nice trifecta multiple times) .and Prend for the place....left Geddes alone with the deadish track..did back Moonbi Nymph..havent seen the video yet but dissapointing....
Hulk Hogan was just to short to consider..and luckily..a few people talking about the ride....i'll reserve my judgement till i see the video..
A couple of winners in Sydney 2 from 4..a tidy profit there..got 1/2 the 1st4 which was nice..should of went full stake here ..oh well ..
Geelong..thank god for the late scratching of Mr Celebrity but dissapointing as he would of won by 5 lengths..Caulfield Jim ran on well but to late..

and yes backed Merlot Now of course e/w..very dour has no sprint..give him a spell or freshen him up and drop him in distance...i think he's probably a good sprinter, 1400m horse who was in such good form last prep he won over longer....i'm no training expert but i'd be going back to what works Mr Hewitt..

Hope you guys did well,,,,looks as if Stix cleaned them up..well done..unlucky Mad .always entertaining ..your day will come...just have to throw that dart alittle better :)

My profit today hit the ground where Mr Celebrity's nose was..sure thing in my book..but hey thats racing...bring on tomorrow..

:D

Yeah, for some reason, I do tend to do okay at the midweek racing. Had a good one again today. I had 12 betting races in all and the Geelong Cup was the only blowout (and I got most of that money back thanks to Mr Celebrity). I made a handy profit today.

Lately I've decided to concentrate almost totally on Saturdays and Wednesdays (or whenever the big midweek races are on) and I've been doing well using this strategy. That's why I haven't been posting any tips for Mondays, Tuesdays, Fridays etc lately, because I've only been having maybe 1 or 2 bets on those days. Sometimes none at all.

Sorry guys:(...havent had time to have a look at Belmont these past weeks but the guys doing the 'West' thread have been doing a great job for a much longer time than I anyway...


Not sure if Western Spur (Northam R7 No5) can cope with the speed for 1300m but Vern reckons hes fit and setting him for longer...hasnt shown anything yet (even been described as one paced-slow hahahaha) but mother is from Zabeel and apparently they dont start to show anything till 4 years plus so fingers crossed...

I know Ive done so before and was disappointed but will pick Silent Wishes again in race 1 Northam...No 3 and 16 small ew in R2... and think Prince Of Vasac canturn the table on Wild Target in R6 with the extra 100m (was good win by WT though with PJ again on board)...good luck guys...hope to catch up Saturday...:D

only a couple in the stable tomorrow...
IpswicH.. Lukes Turn and Big Mick ..havent studied the fields yet but i'll be looking at these ...

good luck guys :)

.......... posting at 1.25 AM....... and you haven't studied the form yet....... jeepers MAV..... you not gunna get much sleep there fella ! :D

Hey, what about that one DESIarnez yesterday.

Take on the hot pot with Missy Mac in the first at Cranbourne.

Lucky she has a large nose........ :D

Nice work mad

betting types

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can someone plz tell me how you do a bet for the first 4 in a race? also how the cost of all in and parlay bets work?


cheers,

matt..

First 4 is same as a tri......except you need to pick a horse/horses to run 4th - Hence you need to pick the first 4 horses in order.

Cost = number selections for 1st x number selections for 2nd x number selections for 3rd x number selections for 4th.

e.g. ten horse field - Take:
For 1st select 1,2,3
For 2nd select 1,2,3,4,5
For 3rd select Field (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10)
For 4th select Field (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10)

3 x 4 x 8 x 7 = $672 for $1 unit ($336 for 50c unit) or for a $20 flexi bet (NSW TAB) you would get 2.97% of the 1st 4 dividend :) and oly cost you $20 not $672 !! :D

All in bet ? not sure what you mean is this the same as an all-up (VIC) ?

Parlay........ I ain't gunna explain this one (my fingers are getting sore as it is) - sorry mate I'm sure someone else will explain it... :D

Hope this helps! ?

hey stix

yeh sorry meant to say all- up not all- in. im from vic.. how do those flexi bets and so forth work? say id only want to spend 10- 20 dollars on a first four?

Gday Bordi

say the full 1 unit cost of your selections was 100$, and u only wanted to spend 20$. yur dividend would be 1 fifth of the full dividend or 20%

no rest for the wicked Stix..

I'm off Big Mick today..not sure the big fella will get through the ground..still have a slab on and a tri just incase...the tote says he'll get through it but who listens to that.. :)

Have a crack at

VR6 Surrounder

Me thinks.

Flexi-betting you get the fraction of the final dividend based on what your outlay is and should of been.....

As X stated if bet should have cost you $100 for $1 (2x5x10 trifecta) and you only wanna spend $20 you only get 20% of the trifecta dividend i.e: $20/$100 = 20% and trifecta pays $500 then you get $100 ($500x20%). Therefore: Out $20 in $100......

All up (Win only) means you pick:
* Horse #? from race 1 to WIN, then
* Horse #? from race 4 to WIN, then
* Horse #? from race 5 to WIN, then
* Horse #? from race 6 to WIN, and put $10 unit

And should you lucky enough to get all four over the line the winnings of the first race go on to the second race and so on and so forth

* Horse #? from race 1 to WIN, pays $2.00, then $20 is placed on next selection ($2 x $10)
* Horse #? from race 4 to WIN, pays $2.00, then $40 is placed on next selection ($2 x $20)
* Horse #? from race 5 to WIN, pays $5.00, then $200 is placed on next selection ($5 x $40)
* Horse #? from race 6 to WIN, pays $4.00, then you win $800 for your $10
i.e. $10 x 2 x 2 x 5 x 4 = $800

Same theory applies for if you choose your selections to place only......

When you go each way then it gets a bit more complex (and costly)..... but stick to the win only or place only or combination of both and leave the each way's until you build your bank and experience ! :D

Parlay is exactly the same principle as an all up except you can have (in the above example) a 4 parlay with a formula 3 - which means to get a dividend you only need 3 of the four to win or place (dependent on what you've picked them to win or place!) to get a collect...... e.g. selections in R1 ($2), R4($2) andn R6 ($4) win the divy will be $16 x each $1 unit you place....again this costs much more than an all-up as it involves multiple "mini" all up bets....... i.e. your bets consist of r1, r4, r5 AND r1, r5, r6 AND r4, r5, r6 etc.... not sure what this would cost (I think it's $12 for 50c unit..... but don't quote me :( )...... maybe some other kind soul could help out with this.....

AND THE FLEXI IS ONLY AVAILABLE TO NSW ACCOUNT HOLDERS !!

Hope this helps !

Luke's Turn did the right thing and won well :D

Got Tri and 1/2 1st 4...... yeeeeeeeeessssssss ! (for $10 each!)

BR7 Reckon I'm Ready

Northam R4 #5 Happy Dis..... for Mine! ( 1x2 )

Good Call..... :D

What's VR8 Stitching like, anyone know him?

Good old Paul Harvey. :)

good move to jump off Big Mick ..silly tote people,,


Luke's turn was very nice..and was very happy with the 1st4..not a very hard one to get either..
got the tri only once..if tranquil blue got up to third it would of been 6 times..
can't be greedy though...a winning day is a winning day..

Hope you guys had a goodn :)

I'm taking No Prisioners in the next..likes the track,,
a whole slab for the win.....1/2 to fill the placings.

wooohoo :)
dam look at that trifecta ..

.............. for some :(

Just for fun...Imelda sea looks way to good for these....1st 4 and tris the way to go here ...
anyone for Stitching ?? looks good value imo

ooops Leckey's not on....silly silly boy :(

that'l learn me didnt even know Leckey was off,,,dont think it would of made a diff ..horse looked like it had ran around a few times already before the race..

a slab on Stitching for me..
what an ordinary lot in the last at Ipswich...the only one with promise i can see is the 2 Miesques Magic ...worth a slab me thinks...

then thats all folks...a fun day ...Saturday is looking huge..fantastic card at MV.

1 Miesque's Magique / 4 Bonds Girls - 5,6,7,10 - 5,6,7,10........... for me :D

I'll go Grand Colours

Tarahall in the last, come on Tarahall....