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Thoughts for tomorrow
Warrick Farm *Blue Pariarch, *Quad Queen , Race 5 is difficult for me as i have Clontaago, No Wine No Song , Mr Zen and Styx n daggers all in my stable..i'll be having a wide tri in this and maybe something on a few of these at odds probably leaning more to Styx who did well last start as Clontaago might be to short,,,,,hard race.. Tamworth *Danzavite, *Miracle Fred, *Lakeside Drive Mackay *Sabre Sonic, *Reubens Gold Warracknabakabealabong *Brakenette (Dry) Have a few here i'm guessing will be nice e/w value...very confident with Quad Queen and Blue Patriarch .. both are in good form..blue patriarch has had tempo and bias go against him of late ,,is super fit now and at a distance he prefers,, Quad queen was real unlucky last start,,Bowman boxed purton in and wouldn't let him out..was totally out ridden by a master,, Cassidy gets the ride tomorrow and he's to expereinced for that to happen again..the horse is flying.. Good luck all :) |
SS,
A galah is a bird, but it's also a term for someone who's a bit of an idiot. |
i think Goose is there equivilant ..
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Like a silly goose! or a "Bold Goose" one of my family's old horses. and "Saucy Bird"
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call ME a galah,but what about Sir Dex at 100/1 for the Mel cup. or how about 11/1 on plastered. I saw Maykbe DIva was favored on the site I was on.
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hey fella's....
just a quick question which has been on my mind for a while and is a reason for me not posting for a while. Does everyone here still win when their selection is unplaced?? I find it hard to believe but everytime someone on this site tips a horse and it runs 4th, 5th or last, they still post and say "lucky I got the qn" or "lucky I got the exacta" What a load! C/mon, seriously, if you like a horse, you cannot back everything else and still win! Some people here tip 7 horses's per race, then say the exacta saved them ( but with 7 horses your almost garenteed to lose!!!!)
I just cannot believe some of thr remarks posted here. I agree that some people here here tip at a 10-20% profit, but I hate post's where the tipster states there selection ran last but they jagged the exacta! Seriously, are we stupid or what! If you lose admit it! We all do! I may jag a 40/1 winner more often than the odds suggest, but I dont jag a tri every race, I lose 8 out of 10 but try to inject value into what I do win to make a small profit. If all everyone says they back here is true ( after saying "I didnt tip it because of the track or so and so",,,) they would be millionaires! It would make the forum more honest, beneficial and interestesting if posters admitted the truth! I lose, YOU LOSE We can only learn by each others mistakes! So admit them! And if i'm wrong, please tell me how to be a millionaire out of racing!, I'd love to learn ! I feel sick everytime I see people here jagged that PROFIT MAKING trifecta or exacta when there selected horse RAN LAST!!! Sorry, but I cant resist posting my true feelings here, private post me if I'm wrong and tell me that elusive secret!!! Tarbs (PS if I post (tip) tommorrow I will admit I as wrong if they finish last!) |
hey fella's....
just a quick question which has been on my mind for a while and is a reason for me not posting for a while. Does everyone here still win when their selection is unplaced?? I find it hard to believe but everytime someone on this site tips a horse and it runs 4th, 5th or last, they still post and say "lucky I got the qn" or "lucky I got the exacta" What a load! C/mon, seriously, if you like a horse, you cannot back everything else and still win! Some people here tip 7 horses's per race, then say the exacta saved them ( but with 7 horses your almost garenteed to lose!!!!)
I just cannot believe some of thr remarks posted here. I agree that some people here here tip at a 10-20% profit, but I hate post's where the tipster states there selection ran last but they jagged the exacta! Seriously, are we stupid or what! If you lose admit it! We all do! I may jag a 40/1 winner more often than the odds suggest, but I dont jag a tri every race, I lose 8 out of 10 but try to inject value into what I do win to make a small profit. If all everyone says they back here is true ( after saying "I didnt tip it because of the track or so and so",,,) they would be millionaires! It would make the forum more honest, beneficial and interestesting if posters admitted the truth! I lose, YOU LOSE We can only learn by each others mistakes! So admit them! And if i'm wrong, please tell me how to be a millionaire out of racing!, I'd love to learn ! I feel sick everytime I see people here jagged that PROFIT MAKING trifecta or exacta when there selected horse RAN LAST!!! Sorry, but I cant resist posting my true feelings here, private post me if I'm wrong and tell me that elusive secret!!! Tarbs (PS if I post (tip) tommorrow I will admit I as wrong if they finish last!) |
but here 's some tips...
Tamworth
Race 3: Miracle Fred / My Charity Belle Race 4: shock tactics Race 5: Tige Race 6: Luch at Friscos Race 7: Silencing / Darcy Vargas |
Tarbs,
I made a loss on Saturday and I'm willing to admit it. It was a real struggle and I'm afraid my tips went shocking. It was pretty embarrassing. However, I think I'm like most people on here when I say that I have savers or multi bets that get me out of trouble on occasions and if I had only had win bets on one selection per race and nothing else, I would have been in real trouble. Some people on here back as many as 4 or 5 horses in the race if the odds are right, and there are various other ways of getting out of trouble when your top pick doesn't win. I don't claim to have won when I haven't and I don't claim to have picked a winner when I haven't. I for one don't take exactas like you mentioned, and rarely quinellas. Any2 bets are usually my saviour. An example. Flemington R3 on Saturday, I tipped The Bighearted and We Can't Say That. I had $10 Win on both of them, but I also had Any2 bets on both of them with the field (cost $13 each), as I usually do when I'm keen on 2 horses and it's an open race. Now, I wouldn't have picked Harryallard's Lane in a wild fit, but with him winning the race, I got back $183.30 from a total investment on the race of $46. My Any2 bet with The Bighearted returned $94.30 and with We Can't Say That returned $89.00. That's just like getting $7.25 and $6.85 about these horses (the 2 favourites) running a place. By the way, I could have got twice that amount taking both horses in a quinella with the field, but I certainly didn't claim to have done that. I prefer the Any2 field bet because your horse only has to finish 3rd to get a collect. I post tips on here as a guide. I don't tell people how to bet on them. I never would. With the multiples, I do post 6 or 7 horses, but I generally post 3 or 4 horses I think can win and another 2 or 3 for the placings, and I don't claim to have won big multis when I haven't. On Saturday for example, there were a couple of VERY big trifectas and first4s found amongst my selections, but I hadn't rated the winner amongst my winning selections for the race, so I didn't claim to have picked them or backed them. As a rule, I don't finally decide what I'm going to bet on until the last minute. I'm sorry, but I can't go to the trouble of posting just before each race exactly how I'm betting, or I might miss getting the bets on. Hope you do well with your tips today. |
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Really depends on the race. Most often I'll back all nominated runners the win (level stakes) and then take them in the exotics (usually selections-selections-field.... might throw in a couple more for second) Yesterday I tru in the 7 in race 6 at bairnsdale for second and the exacta paid $225 and the tri $830... so nice result. I sometimes use different totes, I really like the QLD TAB for the exotics.... not sure why but seems to pay better than VIC more often than not e.g. Bairnsdale Exact $225 QLD vs $125 in VIC although tri was more in VIC than QLD and VIC totes don't have 1st4's, so if I go wide use NSW TAB flexi-betting.... Good Luck, she's a hard game ! Yours In Punting STix |
Tarbs.....
Tarbs,
I see where you're coming from, but I agree with Sportz - tips posted are a guide of what we will be backing and as I stated in my response to Matilda, often I'll throw in a couple of extra nags As I post my tips generally well before the races and a lot can and does happen between now and then.... i.e. scratching/weather etc, but what I post is what i post and I back them and I always back my (*) confident selection hard....... as I think they (in opinion) are a good bet/punt and have a crack at them accordingly.... And I always go with my first impressions, because as soon as you change it.....well you know the story.... As you can see from Yesterday NSW was not real good to me and the results posted reflect that.... To hold someone to ONLY the tips that they post is a bit unrealistic.... they are only trying to give their opinion.... as, you know - it's a hard game.... and as Sportz said people have savers on the races they tip. It would be unrealistic to detail exact betting behaviour prior to the races as people look for value, track bias etc...... Also I have several bets other than those posted, and don't post them because I don't want to post tips for posting sake.... I never used to have savers or back more than my one horse in a race - NEVER.... and then mainly due to this forum.... my betting behaviour has changed quite a lot and to the betterment of my punting balance.... but not saying it suits everyone....just try and help those people who read the forum.... hope they do ok from my tips.... cos lord know some days are very very bad.....Like 20 August, when I got doughnuts from my tips.... Quote:
Good Luck Tarbs........ enjoy the ride ! Yours In Punting Stix |
thanks for the insights sportz,
regards. |
thanks stix,
I must admit it is more fun when you get a good tip here and get to enjoy it with everyone, and I did see that original post of yours, so thanks tarbs |
Tarbs i know where you are coming from, but pretty much everyone else has cleared things up. As a very small punter i don't usually take multis such as tris etc due to the cost. It is therefore sometimes very hard to make a profit with some of the tips on here, just punting win and each way. Not saying the tips are bad or anything but you will often here maverick or whoever say it was a good reult from a particular race. I may have not had a good result from the same race using the exact same tips, because i have structured my betting differently.
Ie. Tips are 1,2,3,4. I may just back 1 for win only. Lets say it comes third. Whereas mav may back top selection for the win/EW and rove it with other selections or field for tris/FF's etc and subsequently makes a profit on the race. I am just speculating on what how he bets but you get my drift. That said my method of betting doesn't work very well. I am constantly making losses. Lol. Umm, wait thats not funny. |
Warwick Farm
Race 1 - 1 GOLDTOWN, 2 Thunderbird Hill (1,2,3,7) Race 2 - 2 INDIVIDUAL, 3 Sky Blitz, 6 Fluro Fever (2,3,6 - 1,5,7) Race 3 - 3 BLUE PATRIARCH, 1 Monterrico, 4 Cherine (3,1,4 - 6,2,5) Race 4 - 11 LOST WEEKEND, 2 Calidan, 3 Spyzaim (11,2,3 - 6,7,5) Race 5 - 4 STYX 'N' DAGGERS, 6 Clontaago, 1 No Wine No Song (4,6,1 - 2,3,7,5) Race 6 - (11,3,4,6 - 5,1,10) Race 7 - 4 STRAMOS, 8 Le Bron, 7 Pass The Bubbly (4,8,7 - 5,11,9,1) Tamworth Race 1 - 10 DIVA'S MAGIC, 6 Saba San (10,6,4 - 9,8,7) Race 2 - 9 MIND THE MONEY, 5 Elusive Angel, 6 Tender Clare (9,5,6 - 10,7,11) Race 3 - 3 MY CHARITY BELLE, 2 Miracle Fred (3,2,6 - 7,5) Race 4 - 1 PROPERO, 8 Danzavite, 3 Aussie Sunset (1,8,3 - 4,2,10) Race 5 - 1 KING OF TRUMPS, 4 Yama Kumo (1,4,7 - 6,2) Race 6 - (8,1,6,4 - 9,3) Race 7 - 1 DARCY VARGAS & 5 BEAUTIFUL EDITION (1,5,3 - 2,8,7) Warracknabeal Race 4 - 12 HILARIOUS GIFT, 1 Cudgee Kamah, 5 Luvit Murray (12,1,5 - 2,11,13) Race 5 - 2 BOLLIWIN & 7 FACADE (2,7,1 - 4,5) Race 6 - 2 HIGGLETY PIGGLETY & 6 BALLET BELLE (2,6,5 - 7,10,8) Race 7 - 4 RUSTIC OPAL & 9 CROP (4,9,3 - 10,2,6) Race 9 - 4 VIE, 11 Brackenette, 1 Big Poppa Pump (4,11,1 - 3,2,8) Mackay Race 5 - 4 SABRE SONIC, 2 Express Force (4,2,1 - 7,3) |
few for today
Sydney. *STRAMOS, its first up run was sound should win this, would need 3s. *CHERINE, going for a bit of value here, shouldve won last start and very close before that to a smart horse. Suitable distance here and drawn well.e/w MACKAY. *DANZIG WARRIOR. should be e/w odds, ran a nice 2nd last run in decent time, down a class here and has a reasonable weight. *EXPLOSIVE GAL. good run last start, would want some value though *EXPRESS FORCE. A rise in distance here shouldnt be a problem, winning form is good form Good luck to all.. |
Okay, well Beadman's not riding unfortunately, so that puts a different spin on Warwick Farm. I might have to rethink a couple of those races.
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Tuesdee 6 Sept
TAMWORTH
R4 – 1 Propero / 4 Bedlocthes / Danzavite R5 – 1 King Of Trumps / 4 Yama Kumo / 2 Morning Flare W/Farm R2 – 2 Individual / 7 Lady Lago / 3 Sky Blitz R4 – 2 Calidan / 3 Spy Zaim / 7 Unamico R5 – 6 Clontaago / 4 Styx N Daggers / 2 A Dollar Short R6 – 6 Sullivans Creek / 4 Lightly Dusted / 5 Quad Queen MACKAY R2 – 6 No More Dreams / 3 Shaddock / 5 Gee Gee Macgregor R3 – 1 Portal / 4 No Tricks / 2 Chief Eagle Eyed R5 – 1 Damascas Calling / 4 Sabre Sonic / 3 Ya Wheed Good Luck.... giddy up Yours In punting Stix |
Well, Beadman or no Beadman, Thunderbird Hill was pretty good value in the first. Goldtown was ridiculous odds and very disappointing.
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Hilarious Gift is a late scratching. Might give this race a miss now or just have a small bet on 1 & 5 if the odds are okay. |
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Not a bad trifecta there, thanks to the 3rd horse. :) |
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I left #14 Rifle out of these tips by mistake. If you have a quinella, trifecta etc, you should have it in there somewhere. |
Or better still, just don't take a quinella or trifecta at all!!! :o
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Maybe #4 Cherine in next @ W/F
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Or Blue Patriarch. :D
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nice work!
Well Done Mav & Sportz.... nice exacta 3-4 $42...
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Nice call Sportz and Mav...didnt rate Monterrico and glad I took Cherine in my tri and exacta...great work guys!
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Trifecta wasn't bad either. Monterrico is a dud! Originally rated it 2nd, but dropped it to 3rd without Beadman.
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Stix, forgot to mention thanks to you for Cherine
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*CHERINE, going for a bit of value here, shouldve won last start and very close before that to a smart horse. Suitable distance here and drawn well.e/w
Shouldv'e known not to bet against Mav, close but no cigar!!! |
Mav would be happy....
There's a turn up..... Mav beating someone else into second.... LOL !!!
The tide has turned for the Big Fella ...... unfortunately for you L2B |
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Cool.....
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7-3-2 7 - $22.70 $3.30 3 - $1.90 2 - $1.20 QN $55.30 EX $137.30 TR $336.50 DUET $13.80, $5.00, $4.40 Very nice return.... my saviour so far.... |
grrrr
dont you hate that, you rate the winner at $29, back it each way, then a $1.90 first starter messes up your exotics and they pay huge! I am pretty annoyed with myself getting sucked into the first starter syndrome! and unfortunately missed the $220 exacta!
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Stix, good tri for you 7...did you box them? Good work!
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Sorry, 7-2-3 Unamico...
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Strategy....
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went 2,3,7-2,3,7- Field...... so nice return.... but exacta was the real star... As well as backing all selections Win .....I sort of take the exacta as my big bet (take it a few times) and have a trifecta (sometimes 1/2 unit if big fields) as a side bet to kick the kitty up a bit more.... i hope a roughie gets 3rd and puts some real value... although don't need too much value if the winner is $27... but it all helps !! Good luck Desi ! Stix |
Funny that. I must admit I've never taken an exacta.
Clontaago was good, and probably at least $1 longer than if Beadman had been on. Nice trifecta too. :) |
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I'm the king of 2nds ..i get my fair share of them..can be frustrating ..but atleast i'm close and it means my ratings are on track..yesterday both Petrol Head and Wimmera wizard looked like easily winning ..but they both seemed to pull up alittle just before the post.. Today has been fantastic :) my 2 big bets Blue Patriarch and later on today Quad Queen have halfway saluted ..just got Clontaggo and the tri .....couldnt beleive the price on Clontaggo ?? Beadman can be sik anytime .. nothing happening at tamworth yet ... and Mackay is running as i type ...,,and wooohooo Sabre Sonic wins ... I'm blessed at the moment |
went down and chucked $10 e/w on clantaago for something to do today. very glad i did!!
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