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Chrome Prince 24th April 2014 07:31 PM

There is a potential selection tomorrow:

Pinjarra
R 7
# 4
CHOCOLATE MOON

Chrome Prince 25th April 2014 06:43 PM

Chocolate Moon won as favourite.

Twodogs 25th April 2014 06:45 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
There is a potential selection tomorrow:

Pinjarra
R 7
# 4
CHOCOLATE MOON


Well done another winner! CP thanks for sharing the idea of looking at something different and a winner it looks.

dcpg 25th April 2014 07:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Chocolate Moon won as favourite.


I have been following these horses - but not betting on them! Ahhhh....

SpeedyBen 26th April 2014 08:14 PM

CP
Are there other tracks in Oz which display the same characteristics?

Chrome Prince 27th April 2014 12:22 PM

Not until you dig deeper Speedy.
Bunbury is a standout performer over all distances.
If you break down tracks by distance and class, then there are other good performers.

This system I have provided is a free forum system and not one of the systems that come with the database, it's purely a demonstration of using the database uncnventionally can return some hidden gems.
It's also really meant to be something to incorporate into existing strategies as a side earner because it's a longshot system primarily.

Chrome Prince 28th April 2014 11:03 PM

Got some potential bets for Wednesday and Thursday at this stage:

30/04/2014 (WED) PINJARRA
R 5 # 3 APACHE ROCKET
R 7 # 1 ANGEL WING
R 7 # 5 ZERO TO SIXTY

01/05/2014 (THU) BUNBURY
R 5 # 4 ELITE FLIGHT
R 5 # 7 STAR OF HUSSON
R 6 # 6 STRING OF SMILES
R 8 # 9 TATOLI

Chrome Prince 29th April 2014 05:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedyBen
CP
Are there other tracks in Oz which display the same characteristics?


I'll give just one example of many of how this information can be used for success, i.e. thinking outside the square.

Take Perth metro tracks, Ascot and Belmont.

Each track has it's own quirks, and therefore horses that win at Ascot are not the same as horses that win at Belmont.
Horses that are able to reel off fast final sectionals at Ascot are far superior to similar horses at Belmont.
That theory being true and correct should be played out in the stats.

Taking final race sectionals for 1200m races at both venues and looking at the horses next starts we come up with this...

Last start winners over 1200m racing again within 30 days AND sectional times less than 35 seconds....

Belmont
553 selections
132 winners
23.87% Strike Rate
-12.28% POT

Ascot
397 selections
121 winners
30.48% Strike Rate
13.44% POT

We haven't even looked at track going, or class.
This is bare bones stats only for 1200m races.

Armed with this information we can come up with horses to lay and horses to back and a pretty comprehensive package of stats and selections when applied to all tracks that record race sectionals over various distances and going.

Hopefully that's just a small demonstration of digging a little bit deeper.

Rinconpaul 30th April 2014 04:48 AM

Good stuff, CP. There's always an angle if you're prepared to look. For those same two tracks using the same criteria, there is a very overlooked factor, and that's whether it's the LSW's Home track today?

SR for not Home track is 17.6%, and for Home track 9.5%. The opposite to what you'd think!

Chrome Prince 30th April 2014 06:34 PM

30/04/2014 (WED) PINJARRA
R 5 # 3 APACHE ROCKET unplaced
R 7 # 1 ANGEL WING $6.60 Best Tote
R 7 # 5 ZERO TO SIXTY unplaced

The bonanza continues :D

Twodogs 30th April 2014 06:41 PM

You beauty CP!

Another great result

Chrome Prince 30th April 2014 08:27 PM

Thanks Twodogs, I have to err on caution side though.
For anyone following this system, it's hit a real purple patch recently and is bound to hit the skids until an overlay pops up, so please be cautious as it really is a longshot system.

Twodogs 30th April 2014 08:33 PM

The last meeting at Bunbury is Thursday before they take a break so only 30 days before the system goes into recess I guess.

Tipsy 1st May 2014 04:17 PM

This system has to fall in a hole, doesn't it? The S/R should stay the same but surely the POT will drop as a result of this exposure ..... surely!, or are all punters as dumb as me and continue to look a gift horse fair and square in the molars?!?!

Chrome Prince 1st May 2014 05:22 PM

I'm confident it won't fall in a hole longterm given the makeup of the dividends / overlays. I'm sure we are due for a run of outs, but am really enjoying the "purple patch".
Ironically the shorter end selections have been getting up lately, just biding my time for an outsider, as we are overdue for a bobber.

Chrome Prince 1st May 2014 07:06 PM

01/05/2014 (THU) BUNBURY
R 5 # 4 ELITE FLIGHT 3RD $2.80
R 5 # 7 STAR OF HUSSON WON $1.80 Best Tote
R 6 # 6 STRING OF SMILES 3RD $1.80
R 8 # 9 TATOLI 5th

A monster of a run from Tatoli, drew barrier 19, was last of 15 on the turn and rattled home for 5th. Doesn't make a difference, but he sure had the motor.

dcpg 2nd May 2014 01:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
01/05/2014 (THU) BUNBURY
R 5 # 4 ELITE FLIGHT 3RD $2.80
R 5 # 7 STAR OF HUSSON WON $1.80 Best Tote
R 6 # 6 STRING OF SMILES 3RD $1.80
R 8 # 9 TATOLI 5th

A monster of a run from Tatoli, drew barrier 19, was last of 15 on the turn and rattled home for 5th. Doesn't make a difference, but he sure had the motor.


Still not a bad strike rate, especially for the place. Great little system.

Chrome Prince 9th May 2014 04:59 PM

A runner on Saturday...
10/05/2014 (SAT) BELMONT
R 5 #10 WAYSIDE

Chrome Prince 10th May 2014 04:37 PM

4th :(

Chrome Prince 13th May 2014 10:13 PM

Two contenders tomorrow:
BELMONT
R 3 # 3 SENOR HURACAN
R 3 # 6 STAR OF HUSSON

Chrome Prince 14th May 2014 03:44 PM

BELMONT
R 3 # 3 SENOR HURACAN unplaced
R 3 # 6 STAR OF HUSSON WON $2.60 Best Tote

dcpg 14th May 2014 03:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
BELMONT
R 3 # 3 SENOR HURACAN unplaced
R 3 # 6 STAR OF HUSSON WON $2.60 Best Tote


'Star' won in a canter! 'Senor' not so good...

Chrome Prince 14th May 2014 08:36 PM

Selections Thursday...
NORTHAM
R 7 # 3 HEEZ OUR WALLY
R 8 # 3 MEDIA MAK

Chrome Prince 15th May 2014 07:41 PM

NORTHAM
R 7 # 3 HEEZ OUR WALLY unplaced
R 8 # 3 MEDIA MAK 3rd $2.50 best tote

Chrome Prince 19th May 2014 04:19 PM

Wednesday BB selections:
21/05/2014 (WED) BELMONT
R 3 # 8 SHALO
R 6 # 9 PINOT REILLY

Chrome Prince 21st May 2014 03:39 PM

R 3 # 8 SHALO 3RD $2.00 Best Tote
R 6 # 9 PINOT REILLY Scratched

Chrome Prince 21st May 2014 04:48 PM

Next selection runs Saturday at Belmont:
24/05/2014 BELMONT
R 6 # 9 CHERIE AMOUR

Chrome Prince 21st May 2014 05:52 PM

So far this year, we have yet to have a big winner, however, it's running at a very nice place return using just one tote dividend...

PLACE
Races Bet: 97
Races Won: 53
S.R./Race: 54.60%
Outlay($): $117.00
Return : $131.20
$ Profit : $14.20
% P.O.T. : 12.10%

Chrome Prince 24th May 2014 07:54 PM

R 6 # 9 CHERIE AMOUR unplaced

dcpg 28th May 2014 09:47 PM

Pinot Reilly ran in Race 3 today - but didn't place.

Chrome Prince 29th May 2014 12:33 AM

It wasn't a selection because it was outside the month break cutoff.

Chrome Prince 8th June 2014 10:53 AM

Having Bunbury withdrawals, come on Bunbury, get your meeting on!
Next meeting it seems is not until October 19th. Bah Humbug.

dcpg 9th June 2014 11:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Having Bunbury withdrawals, come on Bunbury, get your meeting on!
Next meeting it seems is not until October 19th. Bah Humbug.


Gee, that's ages in the future...I don't think addicted (opps sorry) determined punters can wait that long!

SpeedyBen 9th June 2014 11:53 PM

Here's a WA system that has been flying of late. Back any No 1 in WA city or prov races which is a last start winner on a different track. No first uppers. Lots of good prices.
I have no long term data for this so caveat emptor.

dcpg 10th June 2014 12:03 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedyBen
Here's a WA system that has been flying of late. Back any No 1 in WA city or prov races which is a last start winner on a different track. No first uppers. Lots of good prices.
I have no long term data for this so caveat emptor.


Shall check this out!

Chrome Prince 10th June 2014 12:17 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedyBen
Here's a WA system that has been flying of late. Back any No 1 in WA city or prov races which is a last start winner on a different track. No first uppers. Lots of good prices.
I have no long term data for this so caveat emptor.


Not good overall Speedy.
-24.50% longterm.

However, "flying of late" is an understatement :D

207.50% POT for May!
72% POT for April.
68.52% POT for 2014
-55.94% Loss for 2013.

SpeedyBen 10th June 2014 01:21 AM

************. I did a spot check of 2013 and it didn't look so hot. I should have sold it via PPM based on 2014 results.

Chrome Prince 30th November 2014 09:32 AM

Anyone keep this little gem in their vault?
Since racing returned to Bunbury these are the results.
Code:
01/10/2014-30/11/2014 WIN PLACE Bets: 11 11 Races Won: 4 7 S.R.: 36.40% 63.60% Outlay: $12.00 $12.00 Return: $34.70 $28.30 Profit: $22.70 $16.30 P.O.T.: 189.20% 135.80%


Using only TAB prices!

The Ocho 30th November 2014 10:23 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Anyone keep this little gem in their vault?
Since racing returned to Bunbury these are the results.
Code:
01/10/2014-30/11/2014 WIN PLACE Bets: 11 11 Races Won: 4 7 S.R.: 36.40% 63.60% Outlay: $12.00 $12.00 Return: $34.70 $28.30 Profit: $22.70 $16.30 P.O.T.: 189.20% 135.80%


Using only TAB prices!

Looking good CP but how do you find if a horse was a LSW at Bunbury without trawling through every LSW results throughout Australia - or is it only for WA races next start?

Chrome Prince 30th November 2014 11:38 AM

Usually only WA races, but I also subscribe to form and run it through a database to find selections easier.


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