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Chrome Prince 21st July 2024 08:46 PM

So that's you UB, I've watched many of your other videos over time, I'm interested in your jockey strategy, so keep the videos coming and best of luck with it.

UselessBettor 25th July 2024 07:40 PM

Thanks CP

UselessBettor 27th July 2024 10:03 AM

Im still going at 100% strike rate but there is some rain around today which can make it interesting. Here are the lays for today but I do set the maximum odds which are available in the live stream which can be watched here:

https://youtube.com/live/QPfjlaK9x3E?feature=share


27/07/24 Randwick 2 15
27/07/24 Randwick 3 18
27/07/24 Randwick 7 8
27/07/24 Randwick 8 11
27/07/24 Caulfield 1 7
27/07/24 Caulfield 4 5
27/07/24 Caulfield 5 13
27/07/24 Caulfield 6 12
27/07/24 Caulfield 7 7
27/07/24 Caulfield 9 1
27/07/24 Doomben 1 8
27/07/24 Doomben 2 3
27/07/24 Doomben 3 15
27/07/24 Doomben 4 20
27/07/24 Doomben 5 6
27/07/24 Doomben 6 14
27/07/24 Doomben 7 9
27/07/24 Doomben 8 10
27/07/24 Doomben 9 14
27/07/24 Belmont 3 11
27/07/24 Belmont 4 1
27/07/24 Belmont 6 11
27/07/24 Belmont 7 11
27/07/24 Belmont 8 15



Profit so far from the lays risking $30 is +$19.83 assuming you are paying 7% commission with no discount.

UselessBettor 4th August 2024 01:12 PM

These were the selections yesterday.

03/08/24 Flemington 2 7
03/08/24 Flemington 5 7
03/08/24 Flemington 7 12
03/08/24 Flemington 9 6
03/08/24 Doomben 7 16
03/08/24 Newcastle 5 15
03/08/24 Newcastle 6 9
03/08/24 Gilgandra 1 1
03/08/24 Gilgandra 1 9
03/08/24 Gilgandra 3 10
03/08/24 Gilgandra 4 12
03/08/24 Gilgandra 5 13
03/08/24 Gilgandra 9 13
03/08/24 Murray Bridge 1 1
03/08/24 Murray Bridge 4 10
03/08/24 Murray Bridge 5 15
03/08/24 Murray Bridge 9 18

I forgot to post them here after the live stream but was in a bit of a rush this weekend.

I still have a 100% strike rate (not bragging as its long shots and it should be expected) and have made back $30.34 on a $30 liability at BSP if you stuck to the value odds. If you took all selections it is up $42.02 assuming 7% commission.

UselessBettor 10th August 2024 10:31 AM

Selections up today with the odds and a bunch of great advice to some comments in this live stream : https://youtube.com/live/uBKWGi0Hfcw?feature=share

Still at a 100% strike rate :)

10/08/24 Randwick 1 10
10/08/24 Randwick 2 14
10/08/24 Randwick 2 15
10/08/24 Randwick 4 15
10/08/24 Randwick 5 7
10/08/24 Randwick 7 11
10/08/24 Sunshine Coast 5 4
10/08/24 Sunshine Coast 8 19
10/08/24 Kembla Grange 3 13
10/08/24 Kembla Grange 5 12
10/08/24 Kembla Grange 6 7
10/08/24 Kembla Grange 8 15
10/08/24 Kembla Grange 8 16

This live stream I dropped out some info on my overall number of selections, why I prefer laying to backing and why NSW Tracks are usually going to be in favour of the backer instead of the layer. I also provided a simple +EV approach that can be automated.

partypooper 12th August 2024 01:25 AM

G'Day UB, you must be still reeling from Saturday SR2-15??? I didn't post straight away for obvious reasons, but YES I backed it, and not only that but I backed it on SB at enhanced odds of $138.

OK, so why did I back that ? well here is it's last 4 runs:


Last run .8 L from winner carrying 55.5kg
2nd last run 3.7 L from winner carrying "60KG"
3rd last run .5 L from winner carrying59 kg
4th last run 1.4L from winner carrying 59.5 kg

Todays weight 54kg and Reese Jones up

You can see how different strokes for different folks, but of course for me sometimes long time between drinks.

UselessBettor 17th August 2024 03:08 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by partypooper
G'Day UB, you must be still reeling from Saturday SR2-15??? I didn't post straight away for obvious reasons, but YES I backed it, and not only that but I backed it on SB at enhanced odds of $138.

OK, so why did I back that ? well here is it's last 4 runs:


Last run .8 L from winner carrying 55.5kg
2nd last run 3.7 L from winner carrying "60KG"
3rd last run .5 L from winner carrying59 kg
4th last run 1.4L from winner carrying 59.5 kg

Todays weight 54kg and Reese Jones up

You can see how different strokes for different folks, but of course for me sometimes long time between drinks.


I don't expect to get it perfect but glad you had the winner. I didn't notice the margins but given what they were I should have not selected it but when doing form manually you sometimes make a judgement call and the favs in that race were pretty good so I let it through as a selection.

Nice odds you got too :)

UselessBettor 17th August 2024 03:18 PM

Todays selections are here:

https://youtu.be/g4tm5I-kbXY

Caulfield 2 8
Doomben 8 8
Morphettville 2 9
Morphettville 3 15
Morphettville 4 12
Morphettville 5 7
Kembla Grange 1 9
Kembla Grange 3 4
Kembla Grange 8 3
Narrandera 2 10
Narrandera 3 5
Gold Coast 1 10
Gold Coast 2 8
Gold Coast 3 10
Gold Coast 7 12
Cairns 3 5
Cairns 7 12
Warracknabeal 2 12
Warracknabeal 8 9
Katherine 1 7
Toowoomba 4 12

The overall profit is sitting at $6.36 on a $30 liability if you stick to the odds and $19.12 if you take all of them. This is with 7% commission rate at betfair although I do know there will be a few people on less commission that that given the betfair plus turnover benefits.

partypooper 17th August 2024 03:19 PM

long shots
 
UB, yes with this one we are at opposite ends kind of, but looking for long shots I tend to look for horses that have ran close up especially for say the last 3 or 4 runs without winning, you know what I mean knocking on the door, and especially with a decent Jockey on board.
Needless to say much of the time I'm nowhere near but when it strikes it can be lucrative, in this case SB had early on @ $126 which caught my eye straight away but I had an odds boost available so..... bingo! lets hope for some more!

UselessBettor 18th August 2024 09:21 AM

100% success rate yesterday on the lays.

Todays selections : https://youtu.be/f3xw8SwUDkU

18/08/24 Wyong 1 3
18/08/24 Moruya 1 8
18/08/24 Moruya 4 8
18/08/24 Moruya 4 9
18/08/24 Moruya 5 10
18/08/24 Moruya 6 14
18/08/24 Moruya 7 15
18/08/24 Bendigo 3 9
18/08/24 Bendigo 4 12
18/08/24 Moe 1 14
18/08/24 Moe 2 1
18/08/24 Moe 3 12
18/08/24 Moe 4 13
18/08/24 BorderTown 1 2
18/08/24 BorderTown 2 15
18/08/24 BorderTown 3 13
18/08/24 BorderTown 7 15
18/08/24 BorderTown 8 16
18/08/24 Sunshine Coast 1 7
18/08/24 Sunshine Coast 2 9
18/08/24 Sunshine Coast 2 10
18/08/24 Sunshine Coast 4 11
18/08/24 Sunshine Coast 5 10


I didn't get to do the other two meetings today as I ran out of time.

So far 1 unsuccessful lay from 195 selections :)


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