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Lord Greystoke 17th July 2013 11:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michal
Give me a man with a system. In the end he will have his system but we will have his money Or close his account so he cant get ours.
(the corporate bookie variation)
... because when he makes a deposit it goes into our account (and usually stays there!)

 Makes you think we should be at least aiming for a return resembling bank interest i.e. retain the capital and a marginal return on funds. Would be an impossible dream for 95%+ of us, me thinks.

LG

dave101 17th July 2013 11:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by darkydog2002
Old Time Bookie Quote.

"Give me a man with a system.In the end he will have his system but I will have his money".
Old time Chinese proverb. "A fool and his money are soon parted"

...Whether it be with system or without.

dave101 17th July 2013 11:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CosMos
One of the rules of betting that I observe...never bet with 'scared' money...if you cannot afford to lose the bank you are playing with, do not bet....if you can afford to lose, be fearless and trust your system.
Brilliant CosMos!!

Puntz 17th July 2013 03:05 PM
I did not listen to this race, but what "system" would have picked it ?

2013/7/17/
VR/4
Werribee

Distance: 1400M
Weather: Fine
Track: Heavy

10:UNE MOMENTO-
WON PAID: W.45.50 P.6.80 (TATTS)
TF 10* 12* 14 $2255.80
barrier:7
Weight:56.5
L3S:48X
RATED:81
RIDER; J DAROSE

That race more than likely would have had a jackpot Trifecta if it was not for this stupid partial Trifecta bet thing they have.

But someone got it.

The only "system" I see is heavy track, barrier 7, 1400 M
putting heavy emphasis on the heavy track and barrier 7,

fav was showing 1.50

What "system" gets these?
None that I know of.

dave101 17th July 2013 03:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puntz

fav was showing 1.50

What "system" gets these?
None that I know of.
The big advantage the punter has over the bookie is that he doesn't have to bet on every race.
In the race you mention, most sensible systems would not have had a selection in this race for two reasons-

(1) Odds on look on
(2) Don't back a system horse if there is an odds on shot in the race

Therefore we didn't win but importantly we came out square

garyf 17th July 2013 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puntz
I did not listen to this race, but what "system" would have picked it ?

2013/7/17/
VR/4
Werribee

Distance: 1400M
Weather: Fine
Track: Heavy

10:UNE MOMENTO-
WON PAID: W.45.50 P.6.80 (TATTS)
TF 10* 12* 14 $2255.80
barrier:7
Weight:56.5
L3S:48X
RATED:81
RIDER; J DAROSE

That race more than likely would have had a jackpot Trifecta if it was not for this stupid partial Trifecta bet thing they have.

But someone got it.

The only "system" I see is heavy track, barrier 7, 1400 M
putting heavy emphasis on the heavy track and barrier 7,

fav was showing 1.50

What "system" gets these?
None that I know of.
Not me that's for sure but the panels in this service,
That i use had them mentioned though not all.

I'm with you here to hard for me to find.

Talking winner only not the exotics.

http://www.skyracing.com.au/tab/for...12276&plusday=0

Cheers.
Garyf.

darkydog2002 17th July 2013 04:08 PM
Hi Your Lordship.

Thats why I consider Bernie the most intelligent fellow on the Forum.
He,s got his money parked in a good interest bearing account

Cheers

The Ocho 17th July 2013 04:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puntz
I did not listen to this race, but what "system" would have picked it ?

2013/7/17/
VR/4
Werribee

Distance: 1400M
Weather: Fine
Track: Heavy

10:UNE MOMENTO-
WON PAID: W.45.50 P.6.80 (TATTS)
TF 10* 12* 14 $2255.80
barrier:7
Weight:56.5
L3S:48X
RATED:81
RIDER; J DAROSE

That race more than likely would have had a jackpot Trifecta if it was not for this stupid partial Trifecta bet thing they have.

But someone got it.

The only "system" I see is heavy track, barrier 7, 1400 M
putting heavy emphasis on the heavy track and barrier 7,

fav was showing 1.50

What "system" gets these?
None that I know of.

The back the Italian named horse and extra if the jockey also has an Italian sounding name system (my background is partial Italian). :D

Rinconpaul 17th July 2013 05:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puntz

The only "system" I see is heavy track, barrier 7, 1400 M
putting heavy emphasis on the heavy track and barrier 7,

fav was showing 1.50

What "system" gets these?
None that I know of.


The returning fresh from a spell system! I never Lay a horse returning from a spell, they get up all the time at big prices, just ask Speedy? He backs them all the time.

RP

Lord Greystoke 17th July 2013 05:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by darkydog2002
Hi Your Lordship.

Thats why I consider Bernie the most intelligent fellow on the Forum.
He,s got his money parked in a good interest bearing account

Cheers
Point taken but after tax, inflation and falling rates, will there be much of a real return left, if any??

There is a better alternative I feel which has a good chance of preserving his capital over a period and gives him a stable return* Better on the tax side too. Won't mention it here for fear of being burned at the stake and also because I am not an investment advisor.

LG

* it feeds off the misfortune of others however but isn't this what we are trying to do here = win on the punt?!


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