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Punter76 22nd March 2006 07:34 PM

Well... why the f**k are we all here if everyone says it can't be done?

Put your hand up now if you make a continuous long term profit from this...
or we may as well all give it away right?

..and if you are good enough to make a decent profit.. then apparently all the corporates ban you anyway.

I mean I may as well throw out all my data now.

I have 4 good systems I am following (they are only early but look good).
1. 162 bets, $258, 38 winners, 59%POT
2. 145 bets, $207, 24 winners, 42%POT
3. 134 bets, $209, 30 winners, 56%POT
4. 130 bets, $260, 33 winners, 100%POT (no bull********, it's a cracker!)

Now obviously, reading threads lately. These systems will soon crash and burn... right?, and I'll lose money long term.

But.. if they don't, I can't win anyway coz the bookies will limit my bets to $5- anyway, so I hear everywhere.

So what's the f**ken point really, the above are truly worthless right? Damned if they crash and burn and damned if they are successful.

Doesn't IAS say 'winners welcome', now.. if I make my first $1,000 they kick me up the road, is that right? They seemed happy to take my business last year when I invested $20,000 with them.

Really, any pro here who can shed some light if the above is fact or fiction?

PS.
I thought that by law bookies at the track had to take bets of up to $5,000.
It is the law and they can be barred if they do not take the bet, is this right?

ubetido 22nd March 2006 08:00 PM

Hi Rooburger

If its the same guy i am thinking off he has been doing it for years. A friend of mine knew him. He is very guarded. He use to make plenty and still does from what you are saying.

There was another one called spit and dribble he also punted full time at the track.

They would open a window specifically for them and there was was a minimum of $50 if i recall.

Cheers
ubetido

Chrome Prince 22nd March 2006 08:39 PM

Yeah, I think it's the guy that posted his results, got torn to shreds on this forum after offering to supply spreadsheets, promptly said his goodbyes and since that time some forum members have seen him in action oncourse.

He has dropped in rarely (maybe once a year to post something) but won't ever respond to questions about what he does.

Good luck to him.

Punter76 22nd March 2006 09:45 PM

Just done a bit of research.. I suggest heading to the track.
Bookmakers at Doomben and Eagle Farm are required 'BY LAW' to accept bets up to the following maximum amounts:

Doomben/Eagle Farm - Saturday/Midweek - Local and Southern Events.
Rails Ring - $2000 WIN
Main Ring - $1000 WIN

Local Rule 131, Queensland Racing Committee.

So even if you are cleaning them up continuously every Saturday, say even 2 units. That is still $4,000 per week, and the pricks must take your bet!

Anyone have any info on Southern State betting rings, I cannot find anything on these websites.

Cheers,

Punter76 22nd March 2006 10:06 PM

NSW BETTING LIMITS

http://www.racingnsw.com.au/pdf/Rac...les1Mar2006.pdf

Page 106 for betting limits.

La Mer 22nd March 2006 10:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Punter76
Just done a bit of research.. I suggest heading to the track. Bookmakers at Doomben and Eagle Farm are required 'BY LAW' to accept bets up to the following maximum amounts:

Doomben/Eagle Farm - Saturday/Midweek - Local and Southern Events.
Rails Ring - $2000 WIN
Main Ring - $1000 WIN

Anyone have any info on Southern State betting rings, I cannot find anything on these websites. Cheers,


In Melbourne & I think Sydney rails bookies have to bet to lose $5,000 & off rail bookies $1,500.

However, getting on can be difficult if the bookie wants it to be as they will simply turn the price off in your face. So while it is the 'law' (it's actually a rule not a law) that they have to bet to lose those amounts, enforcing that it can be difficult. I've had it happen to me & it has happened to plenty of others.

Punter76 22nd March 2006 10:15 PM

What about getting someone else to go up for you? Tried that, did it work?

How can they turn the price off in your face?
Do you walk away and they turn the price on again for the next mug?

Man, that's insane.. the audacity!!!!

crash 23rd March 2006 04:12 AM

There is only 2 places for regular profit takers [all Pro Punter forum members obviously] to bet and that is Betfair and the TAB. All bookies will shaft you one way or another if your chewing into their profit including Mark Reid's AIS and Sporting bet. They are there to make a profit for themselves, not for you.

Shaun 23rd March 2006 06:36 AM

How about Austote

dingoboy 23rd March 2006 08:51 AM

I have gone back to my tab accounts for this reason.
They dont pay the best, but they wont and cant restrict you.
Easy withdrawl process too.

I have a mate who does it full time and makes two bucket fulls every day.He come to work for a chat every now and then.
I wont pass it here nor anywhere but he sent me an email.

It was to and from a bookie that "welcomes" people.

They would not accept his bet, it was Bigish units, they emailed him and said they would allow him say 80 on this runner as the most they were prepared to loose was XXX,

He told them to go and get completly you know whated.

That is so pathetic.

Cheers
Dingo


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