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2/11/2010 edition
Handicapping Tips
Weight and Class
We're all used to hearing "The horse has the class,"
to justify why a horse handicapped with a high weight should win. Similarly
we're told "It's a 54 minimum. So the horse is only six kilos above
the minimum."
Those sort of comments do not show an understanding of how
handicaps affect most horses. The more weight, the less class a horse
will have. Give a horse enough weight and it will have no class.
In a handicap, by the time horses have to carry 59kg. (60 with the safety
vest), many become very dubious betting propositions at short odds. Similarly
with jumpers - 70kg. (71 with the safety vest) is a very tough proposition.
The table below shows how horses
that carried 59kg. or more in a handicap and were supported in the bookmakers' betting
ring market - with a starting price of $11.00 or shorter - recently fared. (The safety vest is not included in the weight.)
We're updating each week. It's certainly worth looking at this information
over the long term.
Rosehill - 23/10/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
Dealer Principal |
59kg. |
2 |
2000 |
$3.80 |
6/7 |
Eagle Farm - 23/10/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
The Jackal |
60.5kg. |
9 |
1200 |
$4.80 |
2/10 |
Morphettville - 23/10/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
Dynamic Hero |
60kg. |
6 |
1600 |
$4.60 |
5/6 |
Morphettville - 16/10/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
Count Cheval |
59kg. |
13 |
1200 |
$11.00 |
2/13 |
In The Chair |
59.5kg. |
8 |
1200 |
$4.40 |
9/14 |
Morphettville - 9/10/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
Saddler's Story |
59kg. |
2 |
2500 |
$2.80fav. |
1/7 |
Morphettville - 2/10/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
Sandhill Prince |
60kg. |
4 |
1600 |
$4.00 |
5/8 |
Very Discreet |
59.5kg. |
3 |
1100 |
$2.00fav. |
3/8 |
Moonee Valley- 24/9/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
With Decorum |
59.5kg. |
7 |
1600 |
$4.60 |
3/8 |
Caulfield - 18/9/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
Altius |
59kg. |
8 |
1700 |
$2.10fav. |
2/8 |
Here De Angels |
61kg. |
1 |
1200 |
$4.40 |
Lost rider |
Morphettville - 18/9/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
Shekinaar |
59.5kg. |
1 |
1100 |
$6.00 |
4/9 |
Rosehill - 11/9/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
Zutara |
59.5kg. |
7 |
1200 |
$5.00 |
3/8 |
Syreon |
60kg. |
10 |
1500 |
$5.00 |
5/11 |
Stratofortress |
60.5kg. |
12 |
1800 |
$7.00 |
2/13 |
Morphettville - 11/9/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
The Fugitive |
59.5kg. |
1 |
1000 |
$6.50 |
8/11 |
Alcopop |
60kg. |
10 |
1600 |
$4.00 |
9/12 |
Sound Journey |
59kg. |
2 |
1600 |
$3.60fav. |
5/12 |
Flemington - 4/9/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
Jungle Ruler |
59.5kg. |
15 |
1400 |
$10.00 |
2/16 |
Eagle Farm - 4/9/2010 |
Horse |
Weight |
Barrier |
Distance |
SP Odds |
Finish |
Fillydelphia |
59kg. |
10 |
1600 |
$1.65fav. |
6/10 |
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If you regularly get poor odds you increase your chances of losing money.
It's very unlikely you'll make a long term profit by consistently backing short priced tote favourites.
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